ZE830 BOI Report / Info
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ZE830 BOI Report / Info
Good Evening,
a very good friend of mine is trying to find some more info on the crash the F3 ZE830 , her uncle she believe's was the pilot and got a gong for avoiding the power station at Torness, despite my best efforts I haven't been able to find the report online (maybe too old??), she also mentioned this wasn't his first ejection either.
This is her comments about him "Unfortunately I don't have much contact with my uncle but hopefully I'll get to chat to him one day about it all. I know he had to stop flying tornadoes because he had had to eject to many times and it was affecting his neck or something! Also he got a medal for ejecting a lot later than he should have (as in height wise) because if he had gone out at the point he was 'supposed' to the plane would have landed on a nuclear station! He used to do a lot of the low flying practice, I do remember him telling me about that once!"
I have looked on the ejection data website and found some info which I can't post as it's a url anyway sadly she has lost contact with her uncle so any info would be amazing thank you. Iain
a very good friend of mine is trying to find some more info on the crash the F3 ZE830 , her uncle she believe's was the pilot and got a gong for avoiding the power station at Torness, despite my best efforts I haven't been able to find the report online (maybe too old??), she also mentioned this wasn't his first ejection either.
This is her comments about him "Unfortunately I don't have much contact with my uncle but hopefully I'll get to chat to him one day about it all. I know he had to stop flying tornadoes because he had had to eject to many times and it was affecting his neck or something! Also he got a medal for ejecting a lot later than he should have (as in height wise) because if he had gone out at the point he was 'supposed' to the plane would have landed on a nuclear station! He used to do a lot of the low flying practice, I do remember him telling me about that once!"
I have looked on the ejection data website and found some info which I can't post as it's a url anyway sadly she has lost contact with her uncle so any info would be amazing thank you. Iain
It's a lot harder to find than it should be... But the national archives have a MAAS summary:
https://webarchive.nationalarchives....adoF3Ze830.htm
The list of all the summaries the archives hold:
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ional-archives
https://webarchive.nationalarchives....adoF3Ze830.htm
The list of all the summaries the archives hold:
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ional-archives
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I came across this thread recently and I can probably shed a little light on the accident. I was the pilot of ZE830 at Torness on 17 Nov 1999 but I don't think Iain's friend has the right accident. Both of us flew the Tornado again fairly soon after the crash and continued until we left the RAF in 2000 and 2001 to fly for Commercial airlines. We did receive a Green Endorsement for the crash but no medals. Several elements are not really covered in the BOI summary and the most significant was the weather at the time. It was a beautiful evening but the wind was 25-30 kts from the NW and sea state 6 meaning that ejection into the sea would almost certainly have had fatal results. Having manoeuvred to avoid the power station, I timed the ejection so that the aircraft would land in the sea but we would come down on land. I expected that we'd break bones on landing due to the high winds but we were both pretty much uninjured.
The farmer looked after us very well having seen the aircraft crash into the sea and our landing in his field. We were then taken to Hospital in Edinburgh by RAF Sea King for a quick check up before being flown to Queens Medical Centre in Nottingham for further post ejection checks.
I hope this helps with the search!
The farmer looked after us very well having seen the aircraft crash into the sea and our landing in his field. We were then taken to Hospital in Edinburgh by RAF Sea King for a quick check up before being flown to Queens Medical Centre in Nottingham for further post ejection checks.
I hope this helps with the search!
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Ian, the neck issues you are talking about is spinal compression due to the forces occuring during ejection, the RAF I think had a limit of three, but it's a long time ago since I did a bang seat course so it may be less, they tend to lose a bit of physical height due to ejecting as well.
This will give you the basics. Obviously multiple ejection could give problems in later life, hence they limit them.
https://sites.nd.edu/biomechanics-in...-on-the-spine/
This will give you the basics. Obviously multiple ejection could give problems in later life, hence they limit them.
https://sites.nd.edu/biomechanics-in...-on-the-spine/
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Pleased to see you on Pprune. I thought the accident caused all of your hair to fall out!!
I was on the Duty Desk that night. Seriously, I think that the pain caused after the accident in making sure all of our "paperwork" was straight was worse than suffered by both of you.
It was great to see you both back flying so soon. A shame that you both left and went to the "dark side", civil aviation.
but we were both pretty much uninjured
I was on the Duty Desk that night. Seriously, I think that the pain caused after the accident in making sure all of our "paperwork" was straight was worse than suffered by both of you.
It was great to see you both back flying so soon. A shame that you both left and went to the "dark side", civil aviation.
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My hair had gone well before this but at least it didn't turn grey! The paperwork was tough but the Board of Inquiry was fairly stressful as well. At least, in the end, we seem to have got most things right - apart from fixing the engines that is!
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This will give you the basics. Obviously multiple ejection could give problems in later life, hence they limit them.
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This will give you the basics. Obviously multiple ejection could give problems in later life, hence they limit them.
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