N Korea developing new nukes, tactical weapons and a nuke powered sub
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Approximate trajectory flown by the ICBM that North Korea tested today. A highly lofted trajectory. (reconstruction based on Japanese DoD info).
When launched on a 'normal', non-lofted trajectory, the range would be 18000+ km, i.e. capable of reaching any place on Earth.
Today's North Korean ICBM test "lofted" trajectory (yellow) compared to the orbital altitude of the International Space Station ISS (green), to give a sense of the altitudes involved.
When launched on a 'normal', non-lofted trajectory, the range would be 18000+ km, i.e. capable of reaching any place on Earth.
Today's North Korean ICBM test "lofted" trajectory (yellow) compared to the orbital altitude of the International Space Station ISS (green), to give a sense of the altitudes involved.
Ok -they have an "Atlas" equivalent now.....................
NK is witnessing the implosion of Russia and recognises that if one component of the triad changes politically and economically, they will quickly fall completely under the influence of Big Brother to the North. I'm not sure that this all nuclear posturing is all about kicking the USA.
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I agree - the family Kim know their history
You suppose that "any place on earth" includes places that can/would reciprocate?
Kim is not stupid no matter how hard folks try to make him out to be.
There is no benefit to being a Dictator if you are dead or out of power (which usually results with becoming deceased for some reason).
Such scheming by Dictators has to include that key ingredient.
Kim is not stupid no matter how hard folks try to make him out to be.
There is no benefit to being a Dictator if you are dead or out of power (which usually results with becoming deceased for some reason).
Such scheming by Dictators has to include that key ingredient.
You suppose that "any place on earth" includes places that can/would reciprocate?
Kim is not stupid no matter how hard folks try to make him out to be.
There is no benefit to being a Dictator if you are dead or out of power (which usually results with becoming deceased for some reason).
Such scheming by Dictators has to include that key ingredient.
Kim is not stupid no matter how hard folks try to make him out to be.
There is no benefit to being a Dictator if you are dead or out of power (which usually results with becoming deceased for some reason).
Such scheming by Dictators has to include that key ingredient.
The era of nuclear proliferation is about to accelerate.
"The era of nuclear proliferation is about to accelerate."
Not sure - it's a big and very expensive step - normally it's been when countries see a direct and real threat to themselves - USSR/US/France/UK; Israel/Iran, India/Pakistan
IMHO N Korea was rattled by the regime change in Afghanistan, Iraq & Libya and decided to buy insurance. They bluster a lot but the only place they really threaten is S Korea - I have never read or heard they planned to invade anyone else.
Not sure - it's a big and very expensive step - normally it's been when countries see a direct and real threat to themselves - USSR/US/France/UK; Israel/Iran, India/Pakistan
IMHO N Korea was rattled by the regime change in Afghanistan, Iraq & Libya and decided to buy insurance. They bluster a lot but the only place they really threaten is S Korea - I have never read or heard they planned to invade anyone else.
DPRK has occasionally threatened to turn Tokyo into a sea of fire.
It is also common knowledge that US bases throughout the Pacific are targets.
It is also common knowledge that US bases throughout the Pacific are targets.
DPRK mouths off worse than Trump - but frpm a practical point of view they don't seem terribly adept at exporting their philosophy elsewhere - they seem happy enough at home - where that includes RSK
They fired missiles over Japan. I can understand why Japan is arming up now.
In The Times today.
North Korea missile test: ‘most powerful weapon to date’ launched
The North Korean leader Kim Jong-un oversaw the test launch of a new kind of nuclear-capable intercontinental ballistic missile — one that will “constantly strike extreme uneasiness and horror” into its enemies, state media reported.
The Korean Central News Agency confirmed what the South Korean armed forces had already tentatively concluded — that the missile fired into the sea this week was the first of its type to be powered by solid fuel. This means it is quicker and easier to deploy and launch without being detected and destroyed on the ground by US and South Korean forces.
“[The new missile] will make the enemy . . . experience a clearer security crisis, and constantly strike extreme uneasiness and horror into them by taking fataland offensive counter-actions until they abandon their senseless thinking and reckless acts,” Kim told the military unit that launched the new missile, the Hwasong-18.
“The development of the new type ICBM Hwasong-18 will extensively reform the strategic deterrence components of the DPRK [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea], radically promote the effectiveness of its nuclear counter-attack posture and bring about a change in the practicality of its offensive military strategy.”
Other North Korean ballistic missiles rely on liquid propellant that has to be injected into the weapon shortly before launching. This time-consuming process leaves it vulnerable to being spotted and destroyed on the ground, unlike a solid-fuelled missile, which can be stored pre-fuelled, deployed and fired quickly.
Photographs showed Kim at the launch site with his wife, Ri Sol-ju, his sister, Kim Yo-jong, and his young daughter, who is believed to be called Kim Ju-ae. Video, shot from fixed cameras and aerial drones, shows the missile — with its nose painted in a black and white check pattern — rising from its mobile launcher and roaring into the sky above the broad Taedong river, outside Pyongyang.
According to the news agency report, the second and third stages of the rocket were in a steeply lofted vertical trajectory, which took it far beyond Earth’s atmosphere and caused it to come down in to the Sea of Japan just 620 miles from where it was launched.
However, the first stage was on a conventional missile trajectory, closer to the horizontal. This appears to be what confused Japan’s automated air raid warning system, which warned people to take cover after indications the missile was on course to strike the northern island of Hokkaido.
The Korean Central News Agency confirmed what the South Korean armed forces had already tentatively concluded — that the missile fired into the sea this week was the first of its type to be powered by solid fuel. This means it is quicker and easier to deploy and launch without being detected and destroyed on the ground by US and South Korean forces.
“[The new missile] will make the enemy . . . experience a clearer security crisis, and constantly strike extreme uneasiness and horror into them by taking fataland offensive counter-actions until they abandon their senseless thinking and reckless acts,” Kim told the military unit that launched the new missile, the Hwasong-18.
“The development of the new type ICBM Hwasong-18 will extensively reform the strategic deterrence components of the DPRK [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea], radically promote the effectiveness of its nuclear counter-attack posture and bring about a change in the practicality of its offensive military strategy.”
Other North Korean ballistic missiles rely on liquid propellant that has to be injected into the weapon shortly before launching. This time-consuming process leaves it vulnerable to being spotted and destroyed on the ground, unlike a solid-fuelled missile, which can be stored pre-fuelled, deployed and fired quickly.
Photographs showed Kim at the launch site with his wife, Ri Sol-ju, his sister, Kim Yo-jong, and his young daughter, who is believed to be called Kim Ju-ae. Video, shot from fixed cameras and aerial drones, shows the missile — with its nose painted in a black and white check pattern — rising from its mobile launcher and roaring into the sky above the broad Taedong river, outside Pyongyang.
According to the news agency report, the second and third stages of the rocket were in a steeply lofted vertical trajectory, which took it far beyond Earth’s atmosphere and caused it to come down in to the Sea of Japan just 620 miles from where it was launched.
However, the first stage was on a conventional missile trajectory, closer to the horizontal. This appears to be what confused Japan’s automated air raid warning system, which warned people to take cover after indications the missile was on course to strike the northern island of Hokkaido.
Solid rocket fuel. Sounds like they want to create sub launched missiles?
Why is China letting this happen?
Why is China letting this happen?
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They might very well end up there one day whenever they might want to get rid of that clan.
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Solid is the rocket fuel of choice for ICBMs due to the reaction times. Unless you use 'room temperature' stable fuels (e.g. USAF Titan) - which have their own problems - you can't leave a liquid fueled rocket fueled for any length of time. So quick response times are hugely problematic. Solid rockets can stay on ready alert indefinitely and hence are the preferred choice even for land based.
eg Minuteman.....................
Let's face it, Russia had, and still has, many more ICBM's that any other Nation on Earth, but their entire Nuclear posture has be shown for what it is, in the light of of a very committed Ukrainian fight back, which they appear to be on track to win. Not to mention every other Nation who is supporting Ukraine at considerable cost and commitment. Nope, Nuclear threats are a thing of the past.
Not even a tactical Nuke has been thrown in Ukraine yet. I suspect the same philosophy will prove to be the case in China, North Korea, and other rogue States, who will also baulk at the prospect of being consigned to Glass should they even try anything. Equally, the US/UK and other nations in the West with Nukes, have shown that they are fully committed Ukraine, and in the same way, to the ultimate deterrent and WILL push that "Button", should it be necessary.
Conventional wars will, of course continue, because there is no other alternative unless someone becomes unhinged when everything goes irretrievably pear-shaped.
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Not even a tactical Nuke has been thrown in Ukraine yet. I suspect the same philosophy will prove to be the case in China, North Korea, and other rogue States, who will also baulk at the prospect of being consigned to Glass should they even try anything. Equally, the US/UK and other nations in the West with Nukes, have shown that they are fully committed Ukraine, and in the same way, to the ultimate deterrent and WILL push that "Button", should it be necessary.
Conventional wars will, of course continue, because there is no other alternative unless someone becomes unhinged when everything goes irretrievably pear-shaped.
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North Korea launches ‘first tactical nuclear attack submarine’
In The Times today.
North Korea has launched its first “tactical nuclear attack submarine”, according to state media, in advance of tomorrow’s celebrations marking the 75th anniversary of the nation’s founding. Kim Jong-un, its supreme leader, attended the launch ceremony on Wednesday and inspected the submarine, according to the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). However, analysts from South Korea and the UK expressed doubts that the submarine would be capable of firing nuclear missiles.
With its typical hyperbole, the KCNA report claimed: “When the respected Comrade Kim Jong-un arrived at the submarine-launching venue, all the participants broke into enthusiastic cheers as a token of their admiration for the iron-willed brilliant commander and outstanding leader of the people who is paving a broad avenue toward great victory and prosperity with his world-famous matchless pluck and courage, ardent love and trust in the people, and tireless dedication to the building of a prosperous country with powerful army.”
During a speech at the launch, in an apparent response to the US deployment of nuclear submarines in the region, Kim was quoted as saying: “The fact that the nuclear attack submarine, considered a symbol of invasion against our republic for decades, now symbolises our power that terrifies the shameless enemies and that it is a new attack submarine of our own style unseen by the world, is truly something welcomed by all our people.”
Photographs issued by state media of submarine No 841 — named “Hero Kim Kun Ok” after a North Korean naval commander — show what appear to be four large and six small launch tubes for submarine-launched ballistic missiles. But an official from South Korea’s joint chiefs of staff said that the tubes were modifications to an existing Romeo-class submarine, a Soviet-era design from the 1950s, and may not actually work.
“An analysis of the external features of the North Korean submarine so far shows that parts of it have been enlarged to carry a missile,” the military in Seoul said. “But it is assessed that the submarine is not in the form of being capable of normal operation.” Joseph Dempsey, a researcher at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, said: “This is the same — albeit more extensively modified — submarine North Korea showed us way back in July 2019. As a platform it will have some fundamental limitations and vulnerabilities.”
As well as staging a series of provocative missile launches this year, North Korea has also been cultivating ties with Russia and China in response to recently strengthened security cooperation between South Korea, the US and Japan. There have been reports that Kim is set to meet President Putin in Vladivostoknext week to for talks on a deal to supply Russia with arms, provoking condemnation and threats of reprisals from Washington.
Kim In-ae, spokeswoman for South Korea’s unification ministry, which takes a harder line on Pyongyang than the previous administration, criticised the North for “squandering its scarce resources into its futile weapons development while disregarding living difficulties of its people”.
The communist regime’s weapons programmes and threats “only puts their security at risk in the face of an overwhelming response from the strengthened South Korea-US-Japan joint posture”, she added.
With its typical hyperbole, the KCNA report claimed: “When the respected Comrade Kim Jong-un arrived at the submarine-launching venue, all the participants broke into enthusiastic cheers as a token of their admiration for the iron-willed brilliant commander and outstanding leader of the people who is paving a broad avenue toward great victory and prosperity with his world-famous matchless pluck and courage, ardent love and trust in the people, and tireless dedication to the building of a prosperous country with powerful army.”
During a speech at the launch, in an apparent response to the US deployment of nuclear submarines in the region, Kim was quoted as saying: “The fact that the nuclear attack submarine, considered a symbol of invasion against our republic for decades, now symbolises our power that terrifies the shameless enemies and that it is a new attack submarine of our own style unseen by the world, is truly something welcomed by all our people.”
Photographs issued by state media of submarine No 841 — named “Hero Kim Kun Ok” after a North Korean naval commander — show what appear to be four large and six small launch tubes for submarine-launched ballistic missiles. But an official from South Korea’s joint chiefs of staff said that the tubes were modifications to an existing Romeo-class submarine, a Soviet-era design from the 1950s, and may not actually work.
“An analysis of the external features of the North Korean submarine so far shows that parts of it have been enlarged to carry a missile,” the military in Seoul said. “But it is assessed that the submarine is not in the form of being capable of normal operation.” Joseph Dempsey, a researcher at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, said: “This is the same — albeit more extensively modified — submarine North Korea showed us way back in July 2019. As a platform it will have some fundamental limitations and vulnerabilities.”
As well as staging a series of provocative missile launches this year, North Korea has also been cultivating ties with Russia and China in response to recently strengthened security cooperation between South Korea, the US and Japan. There have been reports that Kim is set to meet President Putin in Vladivostoknext week to for talks on a deal to supply Russia with arms, provoking condemnation and threats of reprisals from Washington.
Kim In-ae, spokeswoman for South Korea’s unification ministry, which takes a harder line on Pyongyang than the previous administration, criticised the North for “squandering its scarce resources into its futile weapons development while disregarding living difficulties of its people”.
The communist regime’s weapons programmes and threats “only puts their security at risk in the face of an overwhelming response from the strengthened South Korea-US-Japan joint posture”, she added.