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OSM Iraq & Syria - Updated Qualification Criteria

Old 15th Feb 2019, 11:47
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OSM Iraq & Syria - Updated Qualification Criteria

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An update to the qualification criteria for the OSM Iraq & Syria has been announced. Most significantly, Reaper crews operating from Waddington and Creech are eligible for the medal without clasp.

OSM Iraq & Syria

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Old 15th Feb 2019, 17:28
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Originally Posted by Mahogany_Bomber View Post
All,

An update to the qualification criteria for the OSM Iraq & Syria has been announced. Most significantly, Reaper crews operating from Waddington and Creech are eligible for the medal without clasp.

OSM Iraq & Syria

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Excellent news. I sat in PJHQ supporting Shader while eating pizza. Does this mean I get the same medal as if I was at Waddo/Aki eating pizza?
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 17:36
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Excellent news. I sat in PJHQ supporting Shader while eating pizza. Does this mean I get the same medal as if I was at Waddo/Aki eating pizza?
No, the DIN specifically says anyone but Training Risky 😉
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 18:03
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I've got two clasps on my GSM. One for South Arabia, one for Northern Ireland. Come Remembrance Sunday, and I feel almost guilty wearing them. In Aden, I was swanning around in my helicopter, occasionally getting a bit of ground fire, while the PBI were patrolling the likes of Crater, Ma'ala etc. In N.I., right at the beginning we were just patrolling the border. Later in that little conflict the PBI were down the Bogside or Falls Road. We all got the same medal, but those guys earned it. I'm not sure I did. Just saying.
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I've got two clasps on my GSM. One for South Arabia, one for Northern Ireland. Come Remembrance Sunday, and I feel almost guilty wearing them. In Aden, I was swanning around in my helicopter, occasionally getting a bit of ground fire, while the PBI were patrolling the likes of Crater, Ma'ala etc. In N.I., right at the beginning we were just patrolling the border. Later in that little conflict the PBI were down the Bogside or Falls Road. We all got the same medal, but those guys earned it. I'm not sure I did. Just saying.
And thatís what irks me with th current system a little Herod. You donít think youíve earned them, but you clearly have otherwise you wouldnít have them under our rather parsimonious system. I know itís the military way to have had the hardest/ most uncomfortable / dangerous tour ever, and anyone who didnít was clearly malingering in Stores whilst their laundry went forward, but those days are over, and thankfully we are now starting to recognise operational service that has value and contributes to U.K. national objectives. Yes there will be the odd tour here and there that people luck into, swan around for a bit and a medal comes up with the rations, but they are the exception and for the most part of you get a campaign medal itís because youíve played a part in moving the proverbial drinks cabinet that bit closer to the objective. As my CO said in Helmand in 06 when I was in JHF(A) - whatever you do, know youíre involved in writing history.

Living in a puddle for 9 months, getting bayoneted at least once a week whilst storming gun positions before breakfast just isnít how we do warfare anymore and this is what this - hopefully precedent settting - change recognises. Wear your gongs with pride. Having served on the SH Force as a JO I know damn well youíve earned them.
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And thatís what irks me with th current system a little Herod. You donít think youíve earned them, but you clearly have otherwise you wouldnít have them under our rather parsimonious system. I know itís the military way to have had the hardest/ most uncomfortable / dangerous tour ever, and anyone who didnít was clearly malingering in Stores whilst their laundry went forward, but those days are over, and thankfully we are now starting to recognise operational service that has value and contributes to U.K. national objectives. Yes there will be the odd tour here and there that people luck into, swan around for a bit and a medal comes up with the rations, but they are the exception and for the most part of you get a campaign medal itís because youíve played a part in moving the proverbial drinks cabinet that bit closer to the objective. As my CO said in Helmand in 06 when I was in JHF(A) - whatever you do, know youíre involved in writing history.

Living in a puddle for 9 months, getting bayoneted at least once a week whilst storming gun positions before breakfast just isnít how we do warfare anymore and this is what this - hopefully precedent settting - change recognises. Wear your gongs with pride. Having served on the SH Force as a JO I know damn well youíve earned them.
hear hear Melchett. You blotter jotter office boy! 😀
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hear hear Melchett. You blotter jotter office boy! 😀
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This decision is the right one and, at last, demonstrates an amount of commonsense. There will still be some that are not happy but this is most definitely a step in the right direction and will do much to prevent lots leaving.

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This decision is the right one and, at last, demonstrates an amount of commonsense. There will still be some that are not happy but this is most definitely a step in the right direction and will do much to prevent lots leaving.
Agree, hopefully now we have RPAS which will operate from the U.K. it will cement the move to broader recognition of what constitutes a significant operational contribution. I canít think why it took so long though given the existing precedents. However, some of the biggest grumbles, on the few sites I have seen, are from the serious medal collectors who are simply concerned what opening up of metallic recognition means to the value of medals. Itís almost tempting to point out that military decorations donít exist purely for their benefit.
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It appears the clasp delineates between those who licked the stamps, a vital piece in the delivery of important messages, and those walked up and delivered the message to the Sods.

It is sad to see the Americinisation of our culture becoming ever more evident. Quiet humility and self worth of serving are becoming things of the past. I guess thatís the changing of the guard. Merica!
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On the strength of that post you come across as a right bundle of laughs.

Just sayiní!

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Doors Off - donít be a dic k - it has always been the case. And, yes, I would say it to your face.

This is the right decision and shows an amount of commonsense although there are still some that miss out. The line in the sand has to exist somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Herod View Post
I've got two clasps on my GSM. One for South Arabia, one for Northern Ireland. Come Remembrance Sunday, and I feel almost guilty wearing them. In Aden, I was swanning around in my helicopter, occasionally getting a bit of ground fire, while the PBI were patrolling the likes of Crater, Ma'ala etc. In N.I., right at the beginning we were just patrolling the border. Later in that little conflict the PBI were down the Bogside or Falls Road. We all got the same medal, but those guys earned it. I'm not sure I did. Just saying.
Totally agree, mine just has the NI clasp and while I whiled away the hours at Aldergrove others earned theirs on the streets of Belfast and in the surrounding countryside and towns, hence why I never wear mine and probably never will.
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