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Tornado GR4 last flight

Old 2nd Mar 2019, 17:52
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Oh my word... That last Tonka NAILED it!!! 🤘
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 18:02
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A few more of the Mach Loop compilation tribute videos:

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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 18:52
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I’m not sure that publicising some of these videos is entirely wise. Some of those aircrew still hope for careers!
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 19:08
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My photo doesnít really match the exemplary videos and other photos posted on this thread but I just wanted to add a personal thanks to all Tornado crews who frequented Norwich Airport on practice approaches. Iíll miss the sight and sound of the Tonka from the VCR.


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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 19:09
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For a good couple of years before the general ban on the Mach Loop, the Tornado Force had been clamping down on unprofessional flying of the type seen in those videos. There was a small handful of crews responsible for most of it and they were counselled appropriately. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if the Loop ban is made permanent; it had effectively become a venue for unauthorised display flying. Which is what non-SOP flying (reheat, aggressive valley flying in 67 wing, Typhoons twinkle rolling etc) for the benefit of an external audience actually is.
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 19:43
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This thread has, quite rightly, become a tribute to the courage, professionalism and service of all those associated with the Tornado. Let’s not spoil it by a debate on flying discipline, but let’s not have any more “Mach loop “videos.

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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 20:29
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Originally Posted by Timelord View Post
This thread has, quite rightly, become a tribute to the courage, professionalism and service of all those associated with the Tornado. Letís not spoil it by a debate on flying discipline, but letís not have any more ďMach loop ďvideos.
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Timelord View Post
I’m not sure that publicising some of these videos is entirely wise. Some of those aircrew still hope for careers!

It's not the responsibility of the general public to protect professional military pilots from repercussions of their unprofessional conduct in a tax payer funded asset. If those in high risk environments cannot be held to account, then it becomes toxic - somebody will die if it's allowed to escalate. This covers many professions, not just aviation. It's better to lose a career than it is for a child to lose a mother or father......
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 08:32
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Originally Posted by BVRAAM View Post
It's not the responsibility of the general public to protect professional military pilots from repercussions of their unprofessional conduct
Agree with this.
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This thread has, quite rightly, become a tribute to the courage, professionalism and service of all those associated with the Tornado. Let’s not spoil it by a debate on flying discipline
Agree with this also... but unaddressed, those videos could undermine exactly that sentiment. I feel that raising the point was justified precisely to show that a professional attitude to supervision was in place. I agree that's as far as it need go on this thread.

Back on the positive note, some more videos are being posted of the nine-ship. This one has a more distant viewpoint than the earlier ones, but shows them rolling into and out of each of their formation passes. Very slick indeed for a group of non-display crews.

Edit: posting the clip below to start mid-way (as youtu.be/F1sSRWWcprg?t=190) isn't working for some reason... unless you like to see lots of takeoffs then go straight to 3:10s.

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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 09:00
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Thank **** for that
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 09:15
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Thumbs up

May I say how well the 9 ship was lead and flown. Having done more than a few over the past 45 years it is no mean feat.

The leading was well planned and very well executed. Despite a few wobbles the formation hung on very well.

The one low point was the VRIAB with 10 second intervals. I know that a Fan Break would have been out of the question, however, 2 seconds or even 5 seconds would have been so much slicker.

From an Old and Bold Fighter Pilot - Well Done
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 10:39
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The one low point was the VRIAB with 10 second intervals. I know that a Fan Break would have been out of the question, however, 2 seconds or even 5 seconds would have been so much slicker.
I asked exactly this of those 'in the know' and it's to do with Marham being on its short runway while the main is resurfaced. The runway multiple occupancy rules have been tightened, which makes sense... Tornado is very good at stopping when everything works, but bloody awful when it doesn't. So only one aircraft at a time on the runway short of the cable, and probably some consideration too of getting clear of the cable pull-out area before being collected by the next jet barrelling past. When on the main runway, 4 seconds is the norm.

Another great little clip:


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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 17:21
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Thanks Tonka, my years of looking after your engines added up to the most enjoyable tour in my 22 years in the RAF!
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 20:37
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I absolutely hate the fact the Tornado is retiring. I get it, I understand it and I agree with it. But I don't like it. Farewell old girl. Here's one of mine:



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Old 4th Mar 2019, 18:02
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Nice videos... in the first, looks like the two jets in the spine of the diamond are sitting forward, but you can't tell that in the external views - presumably they've been whipped there? As with the other clips, a massive thumbs-up for the smoothness and stability during the roll-in. Well done the Grey Arrows!


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That video shows to me, a mere earthling, what hard work went into the formation.

Hat off to the aircrew, the aircraft, the maintainers and the station. Thank you so much.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 17:47
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Damn, I couldn't be there!

I would have kept a Squadron of F3s and GR4s as a kind of Reserve or Air National Guard..
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Old 6th Mar 2019, 06:41
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Hangar Party pictures as promised:



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Damn, I couldn't be there!

I would have kept a Squadron of F3s and GR4s as a kind of Reserve or Air National Guard..
That is far too sensible an idea. It appears to me that they could not even wait until the end of March to retire them as planned.
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