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Old 28th Sep 2018, 09:53
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Just wondering why he'd be carrying a loaded pistol? One would assume that would be reserved for those on Ops or at least flying in harms way???
Personal security for people in his position in that part of the world is somewhat less assured than it would be in the UK.
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Well, if you're too close for missiles...............
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I used to carry a very neat little Colt .38 Auto under my flying suit in Norn Iron but later graduated to a .357 Magnum with a 4" barrel, which fitted the Service shoulder holster perfectly. Only drawback was the 6-shot breech but it did drill very neat holes at a considerable distance.

Both had to go many years ago (along with the .22 Browning target pistol) - after a very noisy afternoon on the range!

Ah, cordite!
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Originally Posted by Mogwi
I used to carry a very neat little Colt .38 Auto under my flying suit in Norn Iron but later graduated to a .357 Magnum with a 4" barrel, which fitted the Service shoulder holster perfectly. Only drawback was the 6-shot breech but it did drill very neat holes at a considerable distance.

Both had to go many years ago (along with the .22 Browning target pistol) - after a very noisy afternoon on the range!

Ah, cordite!
Ah, cordite indeed! At the serious end of our collection we had 2 x 9mm Browning, 2 x 9mm CZ75 (heavily upgraded), her .380 Beretta and my 4” .357 Dan Wesson (lightly upgraded). If for real, I would have chosen the .357 ... reliability, one hit suffices, and the muzzle flash discourages anyone else!

Don’t get me started on the 5 target pistols (FAS and Webley) we also had to turn in on that fateful day ... along with several thousands of rounds of assorted calibres!
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Not Fighter pilots but Bomber crews.

Mid '70's. RAF Finningley. The V Force disperse.

6FTS briefing room closed off for the elite crews to discuss whatever.

Elite crews disperse to await 'The Bomber Controller's Whim'.

Young SAC sent in to tidy up after the 'Elite'.

Recovers 8 pistols and holsters.

Enter a very young Acting Pilot Officer (gash shag on Squadron) "Any of you chaps found a gun?".

How we laughed.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 15:29
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It was a negligent discharge, not an accidental discharge. An accidental discharge requires a change of underpants.
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I recall some trouble with the odd Communist Terror attack and of all things gangsters robbing banks and supermarkets in Belgium in 1986.
At the NATO HQ we were not to bothered , but a German Colonel ramped up his personnel security by having a pistol in his belt. And promptly shot his buttock.
Many cruel jokes was made as he humped down the long hallway on his crutches. It heeled up nicely according to his secretary!?
One of the few to draw blood in the cold war.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 21:10
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Don’t get me started on the 5 target pistols (FAS and Webley) we also had to turn in on that fateful day .

Most of my friends reckon the noisy day will be when the guvmint comes to take them.
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Just wondering why he'd be carrying a loaded pistol? One would assume that would be reserved for those on Ops or at least flying in harms way???

We would do a hat off, no tea interview, perhaps they are stricter enforcers of discipline
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Magnum paaah, u want one of these, try forwarding to 3.50, I think she fires it


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Old 30th Sep 2018, 00:27
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Size does matter!

I woud rather see her Thirty-Eights!
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I haven't seen any farm girls quite like her - and I live in the deep sticks surrounded by farms!

Back to the mundane, never being issued with a shoulder holster I found a pistol difficult to stow. It usually ended up in a remotely sited locker amid the survival gear. Certainly not readily accessible.
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Rosevidney

Nip onto Youtube and type Banshee Moon into the search function.

I too am from farming country and have never met the like..
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I used to carry a very neat little Colt .38 Auto under my flying suit in Norn Iron
Would that be the one that dropped out of your suit pocket at a dinner party IIRC??

You may also recall a then contemporary of ours on 72 who had an ND - not career limiting as he finished up with many stars.....
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'Twas indeed that very nasty "clunk" moment in the mess at Aldergrove, when I bent down to pick up a lady's hanky. Luckily the little weapon had a but safety (am I allowed to say that?) and was perfectly quiescent. The lady in question was an RUC officer and was also packing, so no probs! MOD plod gave a bit of heat until I showed the "personal protection on active service" chit on my FAC.

I did add a Velcro mod to the holster after that though!

Happy times!

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Was it Nicol or Peters who described on capture an Iraqi grabbing his aircrew issued pistol and trying to fire it in the air, whereupon it promptly jammed?
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Banshee Moon - wasn't he Secretary General of the UN or some such
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"Picking up a Lady'sHanky".....care to explain that in plain language for those of us unacquainted with every nuance of British Vernacular Idioms and slang?

Is that a polite way of saying you were peeking up skirt between courses?
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peeping, probably.
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peeping, probably.
Try that with an RUC officer and you'd probably be off to A&E before you could recover from a sound kick in the slats!

On one Mineval at pre-pongo Wattisham, the supposition was that there'd probably be a bolthole needed overnight. So those of us who'd been on day flying were told to take our SLPs home with us....

No-one in their right mind leaves their weapon unguarded, so it was just as well that I delayed my shopping trip to Stowmarket until the 'war' was over!
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