Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Full Up Jet?

Old 24th Aug 2018, 07:25
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Dundee
Posts: 86
Full Up Jet?

I am scheduled to present a webinar in a few months time about the evolution of electronic warfare equipment through technological advancements that has driven improved system performance while also creating additional challenges with SWAP trade-offs and RF cable specifications. The audience will be mostly American and will include employees of OEMs, integrators and military maintainers. One of the tag lines that has been incorporated into the presentation is 'Full Up Jet or No Go' on the persuasion of my US colleagues who inform me that 'Full Up Jet' is terminology for a serviceable, available aircraft. Looking back at my old days in the RAF, we used the expression 'hot to trot' but I've never heard of 'Full Up Jet' and, to be honest, don't really understand where the term would have originated.

I thought I'd turn to this forum, probably looking west over the pond, to see if this is a common expression, limited to one service or draws a blank. If its not a common term used by the US military, can somebody suggest something more appropriate? It would be even better, if there was a phrase that is in common use across the globe. Can anybody advise, please?
Speedywheels is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 07:45
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Here and there
Age: 36
Posts: 203
Definitely known/understood/used in the RAF FJ fleet.

’Full up’ means every system serviceable and available, probably reported during Fence checks before going over badlands.
frodo_monkey is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 10:19
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Richard Burtonville, South Wales.
Posts: 1,810
Also, in their version of the F700, they have 'up' gripes and 'down' gripes. Maybe a full up jet is one with no 'green line' entries?

CG
charliegolf is online now  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 11:02
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: US
Age: 61
Posts: 399
You can fly a fighter with a inop radar. The jet is up for flight. It’s not however a full up jet. Full up means all systems are working normally. It’s basically a slang term.
Sailvi767 is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 13:31
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: virginia, USA
Age: 52
Posts: 763
"full up" as in fully working would be well understood by your mostly US audience. It is fine.
sandiego89 is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 14:07
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Who knows where this week.......
Posts: 134
Often heard as 'Full Up War' to cover weather/engagement rules for airex.
isaneng is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 14:29
  #7 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Dundee
Posts: 86
Thanks for everyone’s replies. You’ve reassured me this is language understood by the audience even if the presenter is not full up
Speedywheels is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 14:57
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: home for good
Posts: 447
not often heard on the kipper fleet - either in the 'all sensors working' use or the even more unlikely "nope, I couldn't manage another slice of DCS, I'm full-up"!
Sandy Parts is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2018, 20:10
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,848
Experienced the ‘up / down’ terms during a short sojourn with the US Navy.

After landing a call to ops would be ‘in and up’. A rare call during taxi out was ‘out and down’ as the brakes failed and the aircraft parked itself on the grass. During the short walk back to the hanger, another aircraft was already available!
safetypee is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.