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I think that if you get annoyed by someone putting Cantab or Oxon after their name it says more about you than them. Good luck to them I say. I hope one or all of my kids will one day get to do the same. If they don’t I’ll still be just as proud.
FWIW, I have a very average degree (with Hons) from a very average educational institution.
Why live life being negative? It doesn’t make you any happier to disparage others.
BV
FWIW, I have a very average degree (with Hons) from a very average educational institution.
Why live life being negative? It doesn’t make you any happier to disparage others.
BV
Dead on.
NEO
Must tell the daughter that one!
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
There are people starting to come through the system now with MSci degrees but no Bachelor credentials - these are 4-yr courses where the end result is an MSc, but by skipping the BSc bit, it allows the courses to be funded (by loan) for the full period; the extra 'i' is the tell-tale.
Started my degree course at 59, which just qualified me for a student loan as the cut off age is 60. Degree duly gained. I had intended to continue on to do a Ma. The university funded 50% of the £5K for local graduates and I had an external award lined up for the rest. Then last year the government extended the student loan to cover the extra year.
Result? The university immediately put the cost of the extra year to £9K+ to match the undergraduate fees and stopped the discount - after all, why now give it? Similarity the various grants all got diverted to MPhil/Phd courses.
Never mind, I could get the new loan, right? Nope. Rather than seeing the extra year as a continuation of study the extra year is seen as a new course so the clock got reset. Since I was/am now over 60 I didn’t qualify for the loan - so no Ma course.
On the the upside I don’t pay NI so I am not repaying my student loan - and when I hit 65 next year the entire thing is written off......
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Like a lot of others on this forum I was a mature student at the university that has had a bit of a knocking all be it in fun. So i feel i must support it.
Hull university was both contracted by the RAF to provide software training for some of its software teams and recognised by Black Adder as one of the best universities in the UK. Anyhow, unless you went there you would not know about the alleged exploits of Sara Green, her of Blue Peter fame in the student Union with members of a university sports team
PTR 175 B Eng (Hons) MIET
Hull university was both contracted by the RAF to provide software training for some of its software teams and recognised by Black Adder as one of the best universities in the UK. Anyhow, unless you went there you would not know about the alleged exploits of Sara Green, her of Blue Peter fame in the student Union with members of a university sports team
PTR 175 B Eng (Hons) MIET
Like a lot of others on this forum I was a mature student at the university that has had a bit of a knocking all be it in fun. So i feel i must support it.
Hull university was both contracted by the RAF to provide software training for some of its software teams and recognised by Black Adder as one of the best universities in the UK. Anyhow, unless you went there you would not know about the alleged exploits of Sara Green, her of Blue Peter fame in the student Union with members of a university sports team
PTR 175 B Eng (Hons) MIET
Hull university was both contracted by the RAF to provide software training for some of its software teams and recognised by Black Adder as one of the best universities in the UK. Anyhow, unless you went there you would not know about the alleged exploits of Sara Green, her of Blue Peter fame in the student Union with members of a university sports team
PTR 175 B Eng (Hons) MIET
Have not read through whole thread, takes so long going page to page since the TSB upgradever I believe that "Hons" is an honours degree, "Hon" is not a degree one has worked for but has been awarded because one has got up the slippery pole and been a good egg (M.Litt!!??) , or not
Scottish Universities are a bit different, 4 year undergraduate course for Honours, with the option to graduate at the end of 3 with an ordinary. When I was at Uni, the latter was always seen as a fall back for those who weren't quite up to Honours, or who were just fed up with academia. Interesing noting as my daughter applies that some courses are now listing that as a first option (e.g. 3 years with the option to do Honour).
Regarding Masters, Glasgow University issues MAs as undergraduate degrees with out any qualifier (Even 3 year 'ordinary' MAs!). So my wife has an MA (Hons) which confuses some!
Post niminals can be a nightmare! I know one former professor who has several first degrees, a Phd and a DSc - in some instances he quotes all of them, but usually just his DSc - and his OBE!
Regarding Masters, Glasgow University issues MAs as undergraduate degrees with out any qualifier (Even 3 year 'ordinary' MAs!). So my wife has an MA (Hons) which confuses some!
Post niminals can be a nightmare! I know one former professor who has several first degrees, a Phd and a DSc - in some instances he quotes all of them, but usually just his DSc - and his OBE!
What about pre-nominals: I remember discussing with my boss, who had just achieved Eur Ing ( the European CEng) as to whether he was:
Eur Ing Gp Capt Bloggs
or
Gp Capt Eur Ing Bloggs.
Never did work that out
R101 CEng CPhys etc
Eur Ing Gp Capt Bloggs
or
Gp Capt Eur Ing Bloggs.
Never did work that out
R101 CEng CPhys etc
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Agreed, airpolice, but there was a very doleful bloodhound that appeared at time, as "BA Calcutta (failed)". I believe it was a reference, in those un-PC times, to the fact that getting to university was an achievement in the sub-Continent, even if you didn't graduate.- Herod BA (hon) UoL
Very interesting to discover after all these years that RAF Officers were permitted to read the Daily Mirror.
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Hell, Hull and Halifax
Despite what many might think, Hull University is a 'late redbrick' and not a jumped up former 1960s polytechnic. In my day (mid-1970s), only around 12% of sixth-formers went to university, not the 50% who "go to uni" today; and those who opted for Hull back then, I'm told, had a damn good time as well as coming away with respectable - and respected - degrees. Okay, the city may have gone to the dogs, but the university is still pretty damn good.
Ghengis...
I was a Chartered Engineer once (not deserved), gave it up when I retired, fees too high for me.
My BSC was 'ordinary' (girl friend), my MSC the best of it's year according to Prof "L".
Nothing matters once you are established in your career.
Just my opinion, of course.
I was a Chartered Engineer once (not deserved), gave it up when I retired, fees too high for me.
My BSC was 'ordinary' (girl friend), my MSC the best of it's year according to Prof "L".
Nothing matters once you are established in your career.
Just my opinion, of course.
If I'd stayed a backroom boy at Boscombe Down, running flight trials, you're quite probably right. (Who knows, I might be happier too!).
Prof. G
Another of my posts down the pan due to the TSB upgrade. "Hons" = Honours degree. "Hon"= honorary degree. Given to good eggs ((M.Litt?) who have climbed the slippery pole. I don't have either but I did earn accountancy and HR qualifications
Now honorary degrees - they do get me grumpy. It’s less they exist, more that they get doled out at the same degree ceremony as students who have put the effort in, done the course, passed the examinations. And then comes along whichever C-list of the moment the Chancellor is trying to tap up and here have a degree on the house. Oh and we’ll stick you up front and centre of the ceremony ahead of the students. And yes I crinkled about it on both times as a young 21 & 22 year old, so I can’t even blame age for this one!
Given to good eggs ((M.Litt?)
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I'd certainly agree. The chap who is widely regarded as the UK's top radar man got his PhD there. (I'm probably being unkind, as he's held very senior positions throughout the world, and still does). As did the chap who cracked Ring Laser Gyros. Both very good golfers, so had a good time as well!
those who opted for Hull back then, I'm told, had a damn good time as well as coming away with respectable - and respected - degrees.
