New Amesbury case is Novichok exposure
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ITV News has a non-authoritatve summary.
Novichok: What exactly is it? - ITV News
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-05/a...bury-clean-up/
Novichok: What exactly is it? - ITV News
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-05/a...bury-clean-up/
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"There have been differing claims about the persistence of Novichok and binary precursors in the environment. One view is that it is not affected by normal weather conditions, and may not decomposes as quickly as other organophosphates. However Mirzayanov states that Novichok would decompose within four months" [Wiki]
Could this be produced in quantity (at reasonable cost) to spread or spray on open ground in order to deny access to troops as effectively as land mines ? Our work at the C.D.R.E. in Cannanore in '44/'46 was concerned with defences against liquid Mustard Gas (Dichlorodiethylsullphide) used for the purpose (but Monsoon rain soon washes it off).
"There have been differing claims about the persistence of Novichok and binary precursors in the environment. One view is that it is not affected by normal weather conditions, and may not decomposes as quickly as other organophosphates. However Mirzayanov states that Novichok would decompose within four months" [Wiki]
Could this be produced in quantity (at reasonable cost) to spread or spray on open ground in order to deny access to troops as effectively as land mines ? Our work at the C.D.R.E. in Cannanore in '44/'46 was concerned with defences against liquid Mustard Gas (Dichlorodiethylsullphide) used for the purpose (but Monsoon rain soon washes it off).
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Oh, so 4 months’ persistence puts the original incident back in the frame, doesn’t it?
Whatever the detail, it seems there’s still some VERY nasty stuff floating around in Darkest Hampshire, and my sympathy goes to those living there who may randomly ‘pick up a dose’.
I will refrain from commenting on a suitable punishment for the perpetrator, but I have some interesting ideas. And that would include an accidental release from CBRE, not that I have them in the frame. My visits there, involving a CBW trial, showed me how careful they are.
Whatever the detail, it seems there’s still some VERY nasty stuff floating around in Darkest Hampshire, and my sympathy goes to those living there who may randomly ‘pick up a dose’.
I will refrain from commenting on a suitable punishment for the perpetrator, but I have some interesting ideas. And that would include an accidental release from CBRE, not that I have them in the frame. My visits there, involving a CBW trial, showed me how careful they are.
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It looks like that after the second tragedy it makes sense to take a trvial and non politically biased look at all this. Both venues are not far from notorious Porton Down where chem. experts are playing their games for 3/4+ century. Recall the story of Ronald Maddison?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Maddison
IMHO, the Occam's razor would suggest to look for a mentally ill individual (or an intended serial killer) linked to the above facility rather than blame establishments for their direct involvement (Britain blames Russia and vice versa).
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I looked, he's at the coordinates posted above. If you think anything else you have been too long under the state sponsored propaganda.
Sorry to be part of this off-topic, but I am just No. 6 :-)
This would look reasonable for Russophobes, but why ordinary English people are targeted now and not anybody explicitly linked to Russia? So, IMHO it looks like the source of this A-232 or -234 substance is in England. It is not so durable to remain deadly for many months in an open air.
This would look reasonable for Russophobes, but why ordinary English people are targeted now and not anybody explicitly linked to Russia? So, IMHO it looks like the source of this A-232 or -234 substance is in England. It is not so durable to remain deadly for many months in an open air.
See post by VP959 on JB.
https://www.pprune.org/10188970-post1536.html
From thread.
https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/606...i-skripal.html
Amesbury poisoning: Couple 'handled contaminated item'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44727191
IMHO, the Occam's razor would suggest to look for a mentally ill individual (or an intended serial killer) linked to the above facility rather than blame establishments for their direct involvement (Britain blames Russia and vice versa)
