UK Minister calls for pay increase for servicemen
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UK Minister calls for pay increase for servicemen
According to the Times today front page headline Tobias Ellwood has called for a pay rise and for defence spending to increase to "north of 2.5% of GDP"
Lets see how long he survives incoming Treasury fire....................
Lets see how long he survives incoming Treasury fire....................
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2.1% in Sep, backdated to Apr 01. Watch this space.
Better than 1% but still a pay cut in ‘real terms’ as inflation is circa 2.8% currently. Ho hum..... also better than a kick in the teeth
Better than 1% but still a pay cut in ‘real terms’ as inflation is circa 2.8% currently. Ho hum..... also better than a kick in the teeth
What about servicewomen?
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I think he was taklking abiut a 3% POAY increase and "an increase to over 2.5% of GDP" in OVERALL Spend - which is around 2.2% of GDP on dodgy figures IIRC
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Any murmurs on Pensions? 
Mine appears to gone DOWN for some obscure reason, while the Memsahib got her predicted increase!
Mine appears to gone DOWN for some obscure reason, while the Memsahib got her predicted increase!
It would be nice if service pensions went up by a decent amount too
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Setting your sights too low. We have not had a rise for 8 years. God knows when the next one will be. That's a cumulative real term drop of nearly 25%. Albeit, the recent uplift in uniform tax allowance was very welcome.
Perhaps time we look at no income tax whilst on Ops too and maybe look at the NATO payment to the troops for these ops?
As for pensions, anyone care to explain how Professional Aviator has been so badly screwed up with AFPS 15? Better off on my existing TACOs, with no ROS and no PVR abatement.
Perhaps time we look at no income tax whilst on Ops too and maybe look at the NATO payment to the troops for these ops?
As for pensions, anyone care to explain how Professional Aviator has been so badly screwed up with AFPS 15? Better off on my existing TACOs, with no ROS and no PVR abatement.
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What about servicewomen?
What do you think, Comrade pr00ne? Of course the pay rise (if any) would apply to the whole range of diversity of today's Armed Forces, including the LGB-GT lot or whatever their latest initialisation might be.
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<applause>, Danny42C. Impressive recall/research! 
Still, I just exited so this delayed announcement will clarify how much pension and lump sum I should have been getting. On my first pension payment they included a scrap of paper that noted my pension would be in error but that there was nothing they could do. Pretty poor way to run a pension scheme.
It says a lot when the most optimistic figure is yet-another-real-world-cut in pay. How many years in a row has that been the case now?
Still, I just exited so this delayed announcement will clarify how much pension and lump sum I should have been getting. On my first pension payment they included a scrap of paper that noted my pension would be in error but that there was nothing they could do. Pretty poor way to run a pension scheme.
Still, I just exited so this delayed announcement will clarify how much pension and lump sum I should have been getting. On my first pension payment they included a scrap of paper that noted my pension would be in error but that there was nothing they could do. Pretty poor way to run a pension scheme.
Looking over the years 1999 - 2007 when we appeared to do well with 3%+ rises every year apart from 2004, inflation was also relatively high most years meaning that most years were in fact sub-one percent or negative real terms pay deals. The only time other than 2009 that I can see us having had a decent real terms rise was over the period 2001 - 2002 when a 3.7% rise gave a real terms rise of 1.9 and 2.2% respectively. In fact, I can only find 4 years out of the almost 20 I have been in that real terms pay rises have exceeded 1% once inflation is taken into account.
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I did the Scottish Play and the Merchant ... the latter probably contains some relevant text for this discussion!!
Melchy, thank you, that is a great piece of analysis.
Vin Rouge, you will not see much difference in PAS pension amounts in the first 5 years. You need to get into the upper levels over 10 years plus to see any difference. Also, for AFPS15 then as it is Career Averaging then you need to do some 10-15 years time in to make a significant impact. If you’re thinking of going to PAS for 5 years and then legging it, then it isn’t really worth it IMHO.
Vin Rouge, you will not see much difference in PAS pension amounts in the first 5 years. You need to get into the upper levels over 10 years plus to see any difference. Also, for AFPS15 then as it is Career Averaging then you need to do some 10-15 years time in to make a significant impact. If you’re thinking of going to PAS for 5 years and then legging it, then it isn’t really worth it IMHO.
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So why did the headline only refer to just under half the population? That's how casual sexism happens, by forgetting a little over half of the population!
So why did the headline only refer to just under half the population? That's how casual sexism happens, by forgetting a little over half of the population!
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I'm not saying it's right, but when we flew in RAFG there was no Op allowance, and boy were we drilled and ready for that day. There's no abundance of money now, and the engineer and administrators are also part of the whole team.
I'm afraid this subject has been raging where it counts, for months.