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Old 29th Apr 2018, 17:46
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Chugalug2;10132521]TTN, I'm not a member either, but by clicking on EW's OP link I was able to listen to CEO Maggie Appleton's invitation to view the 80 hats on display this summer. I am likewise baffled..

I must also confess when I first witnessed The CEO on the RAFM Facebook site expounding the "80 Hats" rationale, that an impression of a hyper-caffeinated "Philomena Cunk" sprang to mind.

( See : https://web.facebook.com/rafmuseum/v...56326398802612)

As for "Philomena Cunk" : Well , that's a personal choice for entertainment.

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Old 30th Apr 2018, 10:37
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Haraka,

You really couldn't make it up.

It would be hilarious, were it a spoof.

The fact that it's true is just deeply sad, and reflects how far the RAFM has strayed from what should be its remit.

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Old 30th Apr 2018, 10:49
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Might I suggest the addition of an eighty first hook in the forlorn hope that Ms Appleton can collect her hat and.coat then do us all a favour and bugger of somewhere her "talents" are better appreciated.
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Maybe Ms Appleton had the last scene from "The Full Monty" in mind? (From 2:45):
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 12:50
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What are the RAF Museum Trustees up to letting this nonsense happen
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 14:19
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Originally Posted by Wander00
What are the RAF Museum Trustees up to letting this nonsense happen
For the constitution of the Board of Trustees see :
https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/about-u...-trustees.aspx

Also note the composition and backgrounds of the RAF Museum "Senior Managers" ( Both links are under rafmuseum)

https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/about-u...ment-team.aspx

I make no comment.

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Old 30th Apr 2018, 15:07
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Are you sure she never walked into the cloakroom or lost property and mistook it for an art installation... and no one had the heart to correct her.

Roll on the 126 and a 1/2 mounted rolls of shiny loo rolls installation to celebrate the 100 years of A**holes running the show, the only Government white paper ever to have been worth a sh*te.

I gave up at page two of the trustees and it was soul destroying, as for the Senior managers, not one of them have ever served so haven't a clue about what the RAF is, and that is being born out in the dross we are seeing.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 17:59
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I gave up at page two of the trustees and it was soul destroying, as for the Senior managers, not one of them have ever served so haven't a clue about what the RAF is, and that is being born out in the dross we are seeing.
Well, to be fair, at least one of the Trustees, Mr Alan Coppin, is shown as having previously been "Non-Executive Director of the Royal Air Force", although I don't know just how important that is relative to a former CAS.....

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One Trustee, Glenn Torpy, who has been in the RAF, indeed a former CAS. One Trustee seems to have (had) a connection with Carillon.

Senior managers list could explain why Cosford Museum always seems so good (run by a retired RAF officer) and Hendon seems to be losing its way, IMHO of course

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Old 30th Apr 2018, 18:14
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Originally Posted by Union Jack
Well, to be fair, at least one of the Trustees, Mr Alan Coppin, is shown as having previously been "Non-Executive Director of the Royal Air Force", although I don't know just how important that is relative to a former CAS.....

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Do See:
https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisat...ive-directors/
I.E. Civilians brought in as consultants by CAS............
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 18:35
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Originally Posted by Haraka
Do See:
https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisat...ive-directors/
I.E. Civilians brought in as consultants by CAS............
Grand maternally ovivorous or what - I was simply making a light-hearted response to Nutty's post!

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Old 30th Apr 2018, 19:39
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Well, I for one (1) think it’s absolutely wonderful and goes hand-in-hand with the new ‘Brand’.(did you see what I did there!)
...should we do gloves next? Thinking of building down to Shoes (or should that be gender neutral footwear?)
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Originally Posted by ricardian
I wonder if the trades will include all the older, obsolescent trades such as Wireless Operator, Wireless Operator (A), Teleprinter Operator, Telegraphist II, Telegraphist II(A) Telegraphist I, Telegraphist I(A) and Tape Relay Operator.
One of the ancient Drill Instructors that we had in our Boy Entrant draft (38th Entry) in 1959 told us in a rare, unguarded moment that he had signed on well before WW2 and that his first RAF trade was "Driver, Steam".
The MT WO at RAF Nicosia in 1962 either had been, or said he once knew, a "Rigger Airships".
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I worked with a Cpl (Dick I) while on Chinooks and he managed to stop the whole room and had everyone aghast with the line... "when I was on Sunderlands"

Mind you Taff Walkers line on the Station open day when he espied a Mk19 Spit, "When I last saw one of those it was on the classified list and I couldn't get near it" was a hard one to beat.

Also met a couple of Aerial erectors out in Germany sharing transit accomodation, even then they were a dying trade, as were the painters and dopers and the station chippies.
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Old 1st May 2018, 12:37
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
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Also met a couple of Aerial erectors out in Germany sharing transit accomodation, even then they were a dying trade.
Dying trade! They were still going strong when I left in 2009, what’s happening out there? I first crossed their path in 73 when any dying they were doing was through alcohol poisoning. They were far more sober when last I met them in the late 90s. To keep on topic has the RAFM got one of their hard hats?

To go off topic dad was a FS 'druggist' during 39-45 which would translate to medical dispenser today.
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Old 1st May 2018, 17:27
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The fact that all three of the senior management team are women, two of them from the same organisation (the Royal Armouries) and with none of them having any demonstrable interest in, passion for or experience of the Royal Air Force strikes me as perverse, at least.

Though their predecessors, who let the Belfast rot until it was unsalvageable, and who cluttered up the museum with Spanish flying boats, Polish (?) MiG-15s and US-marked aircraft had hardly set much of an example, IMHO.
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The Beverley did not actually belong to the RAFM and was an administration and funding nightmare for preservation. Senior management at the time were scared stiff that it might collapse and injure visitors.To cite another example, it was estimated that to bring the Halifax up to full exhibition standard would totally absorb the preservation budget for at least half a decade.
The loan of the Do 24 was part of a move toward the RAFM showing some context of the RAF's development compared to other Air Forces (hence other contemporary airframes were also brought in to support this concept). It was no coincidece that it was put near the Stranraer! I'm not saying that there wasn't perhaps some underlying aspiration towards possibly developing ithe RAFM as a "de facto" National Aviation Collection, in the absence of any formal establishment being created.
The 1970's were different days, with "out stations " being sought by the various big collections and lots of initiatives for expansion were being put forward all round, with a degree of competitiveness very much evident.

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Old 2nd May 2018, 12:27
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There weren't any "Hats" in the Royal Air Force when I was in the service. We only had Berets and Service Dress Caps neither of which were worn in the work place. Their sole purpose was to hide one's hair from the SWO when outdoors in the domestic area. .
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Despite the efforts of the current administration to turn the RAFM in to an entry free fun day out for all the family, it would appear that they are nowhere yet near success in that objective, at least according to a recent Daily Telegraph survey of the leading 23 London family day out attractions.See: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/d...under-5-pounds
Perhaps for those who go to museums to quietly study and learn ( rather than to be "entertained") there is a back-handed positive aspect to this situation- for the time being at least .

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