Russian fighter jet 'shot down' in Syria (3rd Feb)
Regardless of the 'side' the pilot may be on, when a grenade is your plan to preserve your dignity you must be in a pretty dark and nasty place. Not something I would ever want to contemplate let alone have to experience. I feel for the guy, having to go through that.
See following. It appears that some Russian aircrew based in Syria do carry grenades.
See from 6:47 at least two grenades carried.
https://theaviationist.com/2018/02/0...down-in-syria/
See from 6:47 at least two grenades carried.
https://theaviationist.com/2018/02/0...down-in-syria/
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See following. It appears that some Russian aircrew based in Syria do carry grenades.
See from 6:47 at least two grenades carried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnB0hZfE-Go
https://theaviationist.com/2018/02/0...down-in-syria/
See from 6:47 at least two grenades carried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnB0hZfE-Go
https://theaviationist.com/2018/02/0...down-in-syria/
So all the talk of the pilot having ejected and parachuting out was just talk?
Not very good English, but this is what Al Jazeera have to say:
Russia steps up Idlib strikes after Sukhoi jet downing | Russia News | Al Jazeera
The pilot of the Sukhoi was killed after being ejected from the aircraft by rebel fighters, including members of the Hay'et Tahrir al-Sham group, commonly known as Tahrir al-Sham. The group is spearheaded by the former al-Nusra Front, which used to be al-Qaeda's branch in Syria.
Analyst Richard Weitz of the Hudson Institute told Al Jazeera it was too early to say how exactly the plane was brought down. "Some reports say it was brought down by machine-gun fire. There's a couple of reports out there saying it was shot down by a missile but rebels are not known to have surface-to-air missiles with this kind of range," he said.
Russia steps up Idlib strikes after Sukhoi jet downing | Russia News | Al Jazeera
The pilot of the Sukhoi was killed after being ejected from the aircraft by rebel fighters, including members of the Hay'et Tahrir al-Sham group, commonly known as Tahrir al-Sham. The group is spearheaded by the former al-Nusra Front, which used to be al-Qaeda's branch in Syria.
Analyst Richard Weitz of the Hudson Institute told Al Jazeera it was too early to say how exactly the plane was brought down. "Some reports say it was brought down by machine-gun fire. There's a couple of reports out there saying it was shot down by a missile but rebels are not known to have surface-to-air missiles with this kind of range," he said.
A related article on Al Arabiya with speculation in the last line as to what it might have been. Again we must overlook some mystifying English.
"According to Maria Dubovikova, president of the Moscow based International Middle Eastern Studies Club, the timing of the attack is quite disturbing, as the Sochi congress in Syria has just passed.
"The Su-25 was targeted during his control flight around the de-escalation zone. De-escalation zones are considered the cornerstones of the peace process in Syria. The incident may pose one Russian retreat of forces from Syria," she said.
Dubovikova said that another possible source of MANPAD system might be the Ukrainians. "It's difficult to prove, but they are always active on black market; especially after the rupture with Russia. There are some rumors here in Russia that it was an Igla MANPAD (9k38) SA18 or Chinese analogue FN-6 ".
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...ith-arms-.html
"According to Maria Dubovikova, president of the Moscow based International Middle Eastern Studies Club, the timing of the attack is quite disturbing, as the Sochi congress in Syria has just passed.
"The Su-25 was targeted during his control flight around the de-escalation zone. De-escalation zones are considered the cornerstones of the peace process in Syria. The incident may pose one Russian retreat of forces from Syria," she said.
Dubovikova said that another possible source of MANPAD system might be the Ukrainians. "It's difficult to prove, but they are always active on black market; especially after the rupture with Russia. There are some rumors here in Russia that it was an Igla MANPAD (9k38) SA18 or Chinese analogue FN-6 ".
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...ith-arms-.html
When one sees the picture of the pilot being burnt to death in a steel cage, a hand grenade is a great device...
ISIS video shows Jordanian pilot being burned to death - CBS News
ISIS video shows Jordanian pilot being burned to death - CBS News
hunterboy,
Speak for yourself!
You do indeed disparage the West, in my opinion totally unjustifiably.
Speak for yourself!
You do indeed disparage the West, in my opinion totally unjustifiably.
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The Notorious JRK put it best...
Poems - The Young British Soldier
But seriously... no DIRCM? And where was MAWS?
Poems - The Young British Soldier
But seriously... no DIRCM? And where was MAWS?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Russian pilot shot down in Syria took own life rather than be caught
The Russian pilot shot down in Syria has been hailed a hero in Moscow after he shouted, “This is for our guys!” before detonating a grenade while surrounded by militants on the ground. In video circulated online, Major Roman Filipov, 33, is heard crying the words in Russian as about ten armed men approach his position behind a rock. There is then a bang and smoke rises as some of the attackers fall back.
The Russian defence ministry confirmed that Major Filipov had died “fighting the terrorists” after he ejected from his Su-25 fighter jet. It said Sergei Shoigu, the defence minister, had put him forward for a posthumous Hero of Russia medal, the highest state award. “Until the last minutes of his life, he kept up an unequal fight from his service weapon,” the ministry said. “After he, badly wounded, was surrounded by the terrorists and the distance closed to a few dozen metres, the Russian officer blew himself up.”
Pictures of Major Filipov’s Stechkin pistol with three magazines, one empty and one half-empty, were earlier shared on Twitter. It was not clear if any Syrian fighters were hurt in the incident in Idlib province on Saturday. Some Russian media said two were injured.....
The Russian pilot shot down in Syria has been hailed a hero in Moscow after he shouted, “This is for our guys!” before detonating a grenade while surrounded by militants on the ground. In video circulated online, Major Roman Filipov, 33, is heard crying the words in Russian as about ten armed men approach his position behind a rock. There is then a bang and smoke rises as some of the attackers fall back.
The Russian defence ministry confirmed that Major Filipov had died “fighting the terrorists” after he ejected from his Su-25 fighter jet. It said Sergei Shoigu, the defence minister, had put him forward for a posthumous Hero of Russia medal, the highest state award. “Until the last minutes of his life, he kept up an unequal fight from his service weapon,” the ministry said. “After he, badly wounded, was surrounded by the terrorists and the distance closed to a few dozen metres, the Russian officer blew himself up.”
Pictures of Major Filipov’s Stechkin pistol with three magazines, one empty and one half-empty, were earlier shared on Twitter. It was not clear if any Syrian fighters were hurt in the incident in Idlib province on Saturday. Some Russian media said two were injured.....
I know it probably wouldn't have helped in this situation, but do the Russians have any meaningful CSAR assets in Syria? Given the balls-up they made of trying to rescue the crew of the Su24 downed by the Turks, one would suspect not.
Western coalition air forces would have moved heaven and earth to get to a downed pilot in that situation
Western coalition air forces would have moved heaven and earth to get to a downed pilot in that situation
As someone memorably once said on these forums, it's never a great plan to bail out over an area you've just been strafing - the people on the receiving end tend to take a rather dim view of your actions
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Body of the pilot and parts of downed plane arrived to Chkalovsky today. Pilot will have military funeral service in Voronezh Feb, 8th at Hero Alley of Comintern Memorial Cemetery.