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Veterans To Be 'Formally Recognised With Official ID Cards'

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Old 30th May 2018, 11:30
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So where do we apply? How much do they charge? No doubt all will be revealed in my next Pensions newsletter.
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Old 30th May 2018, 12:41
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What is the point?

So, you can keep your old ID with a bit cut out of the corner, why? It won't allow you into any current UK military facility.

You are in the military or you are not. When you leave you leave, time to move on and do something else.
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Old 30th May 2018, 13:57
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Like try to get Military Discount when in the USA? It used to work using my RAFA Retired Member card.
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Old 30th May 2018, 17:47
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
What is the point?

So, you can keep your old ID with a bit cut out of the corner, why?
As it says in the article - 'to help veterans to benefit from special corporate discounts and government support, a defence minister has said.'
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Old 30th May 2018, 18:48
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What is the point?

So, you can keep your old ID with a bit cut out of the corner, why? It won't allow you into any current UK military facility.

You are in the military or you are not. When you leave you leave , time to move on and do something else.
totally this...except for posting on pprune of course
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Old 30th May 2018, 18:53
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Years ago, travellling in the U.S.A, producton of F1250 (RAF I.D.) got me a huge reduction in Holiday Inns,Best Westerns etc. They really seemed to respect servicemen.
(or was it just my natural charm with my "cute British accent"?

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Old 30th May 2018, 19:28
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After 50 years in Defence related 'work' , including 39 years in the RAF, I have only once recieved a message 'thanking me for my service'. Oddly, It came from the US DoD. Maybe because In 81 - I did 6 weeks of 'active service' with the USAF on detachment. I have always found that it's worth asking for military discount in the States.

I doubt that I need to say what sort of response I get to the same questions in U.K. Perhaps the 'recognition' will make things different...but I'm not holding my breath. However, my DDS card did pay for itself on its first use.

pre booked Car Hire .....in Canada!!!

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Old 30th May 2018, 19:30
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NutLoose, I agree with your sentiments,
I served just over 10 years, but never in a conflict or war zone.
To myself, I'm ex-service, others sometimes call me a veteran, I reserve that title for people who have put themselves at risk and made a difference.
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Old 30th May 2018, 20:33
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Originally Posted by BigGreenGilbert

i am very much with pr00ne on this one. I Most of the so called ‘discounts’ are just an illusion anyway - usually available through some other means.

Unless a decision is made to really offer something like radical - more like the US model, then it’s a complete and utter waste of time.

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we have benefited to several hundred pounds. With Carnival cruise companies we got on board credits for spending on board. With Topps Tiles 10% saving lots and The Original Factory shop too. True there are other discounts but these were easy and worth it.

In the USA we didn't even need proof.
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Old 30th May 2018, 23:17
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To myself, I'm ex-service, others sometimes call me a veteran, I reserve that title for people who have put themselves at risk and made a difference.
Seconded that gibbo568. As far as I'm concerned unlike a lot of people who came before and after me I had an enjoyable 12 years during which I saw the world, got reasonably well paid, did some fun things at HM's expense, and suffered nothing worse than a bad case of self inflicted sunburn in Aden. Different story for people like my dad who didnt see his wife and kids from 1942 to 1946, or others who came home from Afghanistan or Iraq etc minus various bits of themselves. I dont want any special treatment, I dont want anyone "thanking me for my service" and I wont be applying for a "veterans card". I could also give the example of Mrs TTN who came out of the QARANC as a nursing sister and immediately took a 50% drop in pay when she got a job as a civvy nurse, and right up till she retired 10 years ago never really got a decent salary. Under this system she could qualify for discounts etc on the basis of her military service but sod all for her many years as as NHS midwife.

I want nothing to do with it.
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Old 31st May 2018, 06:30
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Seconded that gibbo568. As far as I'm concerned unlike a lot of people who came before and after me I had an enjoyable 12 years during which I saw the world, got reasonably well paid, did some fun things at HM's expense, and suffered nothing worse than a bad case of self inflicted sunburn in Aden. Different story for people like my dad who didnt see his wife and kids from 1942 to 1946, or others who came home from Afghanistan or Iraq etc minus various bits of themselves. I dont want any special treatment, I dont want anyone "thanking me for my service" and I wont be applying for a "veterans card". I could also give the example of Mrs TTN who came out of the QARANC as a nursing sister and immediately took a 50% drop in pay when she got a job as a civvy nurse, and right up till she retired 10 years ago never really got a decent salary. Under this system she could qualify for discounts etc on the basis of her military service but sod all for her many years as as NHS midwife.

I want nothing to do with it.
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That is of course entirely your choice and that is the point of this scheme - it is not compulsory. However, there are many others that do not feel that way and are grateful for the fact that this will allow anyone who signed up to potentially put their life in danger and to bear arms (with many that actually have) will be valued by the State and parts of society for this sacrifice. I am not aware of NHS staff making the same sort of commitment that any Service Personnel make - to waive significant rights and volunteer to be in an area fighting for their country where their lives will be in danger. There is a distinct difference.

in a few years time if the country, it’s various commercial outlets and the various state-run services want to recognise that sacrifice of service then that is fine by me. One of the biggest drivers of people leaving the Services is that loss of feeling valued both in and out of of the mob. This goes a small way of rectifying that rift in my hummble opinion.

I will be gracious and grateful for anything I receive in return for my 30+ years of service.

LJ
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Old 31st May 2018, 06:50
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet


TTN

That is of course entirely your choice and that is the point of this scheme - it is not compulsory. However, there are many others that do not feel that way and are grateful for the fact that this will allow anyone who signed up to potentially put their life in danger and to bear arms (with many that actually have) will be valued by the State and parts of society for this sacrifice. I am not aware of NHS staff making the same sort of commitment that any Service Personnel make - to waive significant rights and volunteer to be in an area fighting for their country where their lives will be in danger. There is a distinct difference.

in a few years time if the country, it’s various commercial outlets and the various state-run services want to recognise that sacrifice of service then that is fine by me. One of the biggest drivers of people leaving the Services is that loss of feeling valued both in and out of of the mob. This goes a small way of rectifying that rift in my hummble opinion.

I will be gracious and grateful for anything I receive in return for my 30+ years of service.

LJ
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 31st May 2018, 06:52
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Well said LJ..
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Old 31st May 2018, 07:21
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LJ sums it up rather well I think. ��

It's all about choice. Folks, make the most of the ability to make such choices while you can . I feel that with the momentum building behind the next 'man of the people' those choices will not be around for too long.

But that is just my opinion, of course, held as a member of that rapidly diminishing silent minority grouping, 'the oldies'.

Thought police please note!
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Old 31st May 2018, 13:36
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I can be found in LJ’s corner as well.

OK, we both have nice pensions from our Service years (29/25) but apart from that nobody really gives a s**t. Our identical ‘boiler-plate’ letters on retirement summed it up, although I did get a personal one from my AOC (she didn’t). A little extra recognition, where available, would be appreciated.
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Old 1st Jun 2018, 01:52
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My most humiliating time in the RAF was the day, on retirement, when I had to return my trusted aircrew Omega watch. In those days most civilian companies would present their retiree with a watch.
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Old 1st Jun 2018, 08:23
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i still have my last 1250 (nobody asked for it when i retired 13 yrs ago after 44 yrs). Which corner should I cut off?
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Old 1st Jun 2018, 10:18
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When I cleared from the RAF at HQSTC after 37 years service, the SAC lady demanded my F1250 to complete the process. I said to her that this was the first time in 37 years that I would be without my F1250 and it was a sad moment.......her reply?
”Yeah.....whatever”. !!
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Old 1st Jun 2018, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Torchy
When I cleared from the RAF at HQSTC after 37 years service, the SAC lady demanded my F1250 to complete the process. I said to her that this was the first time in 37 years that I would be without my F1250 and it was a sad moment.......her reply?
”Yeah.....whatever”. !!
My feelings as well!
I was being 'walked-out' of my MQ at Brize Norton when the admin F/O said "you need to take down that TV antenna!' I said I thought the new tenant would appreciate a free antenna.. but, in her opinion....NO.
I realized then (1974) I was well out of what I had regarded as my life and career as aircrew (Lord Trenchard)......Air Ministry had been taken over by administrators and bankers.

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Old 1st Jun 2018, 16:45
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Davita, those were terrible days! Everything had to be restored to its original primitive state!!
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