Swedish AF Herc display
Swedish AF Herc display
I must be getting old but Bud Holland's name came to mind in watching this video from the late 80s. (as a bonus, at 5.25 he shuts down the outboards..)
Apologies if this has been posted here before.
Apologies if this has been posted here before.
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Very sporting!
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The Dutch F-27 display was always excellent.
Sure I saw some video of the Swedish AF C-130 being looped, though it could have been that wing over got a little more extreme on occasion. I once saw the F-27 get close to wings level inverted at Biggin.
Sure I saw some video of the Swedish AF C-130 being looped, though it could have been that wing over got a little more extreme on occasion. I once saw the F-27 get close to wings level inverted at Biggin.
There have been some pretty sparkling F-27,C-27J, G222, Transall and, more recently, A400M displays over the years. IMHO there's quite a difference between a choreographed, practised display subject to training and supervision, and Bud Holland's rip-sh1t attitude and flagrant disregard for rules, aircraft limits, CRM and authority. Much like a Chinook, a lightly loaded transport aircraft has a pretty handy thrust margin when flown at display weights. The key is the proper selection, training and monitoring of dedicated display crews. The main reason for a lack of ME displays, I'd imagine, is that they're simply too busy most of the time to spare airframes / crews for the "circuit".
Hmmmm, I AM getting old! Way outside the manufacturers AoB limits on many occasions...yeah yeah yeah, I'm a stick in the mud, but as I recall there was a review of the speeds flown in turns in the RAF Herc TAC Demo and it revealed they were perilously low....regrettably the methodology/results didn't filter to other RAF Fleets and (memory may be fading) the review never reached Kinloss, a fact mentioned in the BOI into the 1995 Nimrod crash in Toronto. This Swede was treading a fine line between stall and over stress...
Lost too many friends to enjoy this sort of display I'm afraid
Grumpy old man rant over....
Lost too many friends to enjoy this sort of display I'm afraid
Grumpy old man rant over....
There IS a difference between shutting down two in controlled flight and winding on 90deg of bank in a large aircraft close to the ground and not understanding drag rise etc.
A buddy, and all the crew, was killed by some tvat doing that.
A buddy, and all the crew, was killed by some tvat doing that.
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Dutch F27 display
I have nothing but respect for the Dutch crew who displayed the F27 in such a sprightly way, fifteen years after seeing the Aircraft thrown around the sky I found my self in command of an F27.............. it was without doubt the worst turbine aircraft I have flown !
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Lockheed's bank limits way exceeded. Glad I wasn't IN it and glad I didn't have to fly it afterwards.
Lunacy - 60° bank clean, 45° bank with flap. What's the point in busting them - I presume the manufacturers set limits for a bloody good reason .
Lunacy - 60° bank clean, 45° bank with flap. What's the point in busting them - I presume the manufacturers set limits for a bloody good reason .
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It's been on here before...
The Italian RSV C-27J Spartan display is a tad sporty....complete with barrel rolls, loops and knife edge passes...
I was gobsmacked and impressed in equal measure.
Like this Treble.
The pilots paying off flight. CO none too happy and called for checks to be made of the aircraft, pilot replied you better check them all, I've been practicing for a week. So the story went.
And a P-3 if I recall.
If you are blessed with the requisite degree of skill you can do almost anything with any aircraft without breaking it aka Bob Hoover, saw him doing hammerheads in a Sabreliner among other gymnastics, "Tex" in the -80. Limits are for we mere mortals.
Don't forget the RAAF HS748 doing a couple of rolls and big wing-overs at RAAF Base Sale in the distant past...
The RAAF spins C130s
Lockheed's bank limits way exceeded
ORAC, angle of bank limits, no aerobatic manouvers and the like is what I meant to imply. Airspeed, G limits, engine limits and the like, there is no getting around, they apply to all.