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Old 23rd May 2022, 13:33
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I would like to have been able to watch a remastered Topgun on the big screen before seeing the new one.
Did just that a few nights back, unmanned although on a big TV rather than a movie screen.
Totally loved the movie 35 or so years ago, but sadly, it has not aged well.
The character played by Cruise came over as a privileged little tw#t, who continually broke rules and through utter arrogance, got his best buddy killed !
Might be good for the USAF or USMC but I cannot imagine him lasting 5 mins this side of the pond !

Let's hope TG2 paints a better picture !

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Old 23rd May 2022, 18:16
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Originally Posted by El Grifo View Post
The character played by Cruise came over as a privileged little tw#t, who continually broke rules and through utter arrogance, got his best buddy killed !
Might be good for the USAF or USMC but I cannot imagine him lasting 5 mins this side of the pond !
For some reason, film makers (at least those on this side of the pond) have an affinity for that type of pilot, even if it's not true or particularly appropriate for the character. They did the same thing with the hero pilot in the recent "Midway" remake (Capt. Best?). I'm fairly well read on the Battle of Midway (and recently read "Never Call Me a Hero" autobiography of Dusty Kleiss" and never seen any mention of any "Hot Dog" pilots. Pure Hollywood...
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Fighting authority appeals to all those kids who don't want to obey any rules - it all comes good in the last reel - (not necessarily in real life tho')
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Old 24th May 2022, 17:32
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Originally Posted by El Grifo View Post
Did just that a few nights back, unmanned although on a big TV rather than a movie screen.
The character played by Cruise came over as a privileged little tw#t, who continually broke rules and through utter arrogance, got his best buddy killed !

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Mavericks arrogance played a part but Icemans greater arroagance instigated this tragic chain of events as he should have disengaged earlier.


Lt Pete Mitchell was cleared by the board of enquiry,



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Old 24th May 2022, 18:12
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Great film in its day, beautiful photography of the F14s etc. Cheesy and dated plot and dialogue now though.
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Old 24th May 2022, 22:38
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This works 🤪


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Old 25th May 2022, 04:48
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Sort of the original and still the best: Air Power at Sea.

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Old 25th May 2022, 11:44
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Just home from watching at our local cinema: brilliant film, thoroughly recommended. Flying, cinematography, soundtrack all first rate, and even the characters emulate those in the original. Close enough but different, I'll be sure to go and see it again
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Old 25th May 2022, 12:51
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Absurd movie. If this is Tom Cruiseís love-letter to aviation, well, his perspective is deluded. The movie could have been improved with a more detailed bedroom scene- cause watching old people fornicate more interesting than the rest of the movie.
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Old 25th May 2022, 13:18
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So Top Gun was filmed in 86 ..presumably Maverick would have had a fairly well established flying career before being selected to go to Miramar...so lets say hes 30 years old in 86. If you roll on 30 years implying TG2 is set in 2016 he would be 60 years old ....are there really any 60 year old front line instructors out there? if it was set in present time hed be 66..fanciful stuff me thinks...hed likely as not be some staffer close to retirement flying a desk or retiring from an airline career - i havent seen the film so my observations might be answered
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Old 25th May 2022, 14:05
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Originally Posted by John Eacott View Post
Just home from watching at our local cinema: brilliant film, thoroughly recommended. Flying, cinematography, soundtrack all first rate, and even the characters emulate those in the original. Close enough but different, I'll be sure to go and see it again
Iíve just seen it as well, the flying and film work I thought was good. Just need to find an IMAX to watch it again in 👍.
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Old 25th May 2022, 16:12
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Maverick follows much of the fit, form, and function of the original. It opens with the same black-screen text introducing the ACM school, then cuts to carrier activity with Danger Zone blasting, perfectly setting the tone.
  • Captivating aerial demonstrations
  • A plot with barely a toe-hold in reality
  • A romantic angle shoe-horned in the middle
  • shirtless sports scene for the ladies
Here is a photo of the poster and pin we got as SWAG on the way out of the theater: https://imgur.com/a/nJrsZo5

Also, the 150-minute documentary covering the making of the original was uploaded to YT earlier this month:
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Old 25th May 2022, 16:21
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It would be fun to get that crippled flags patch as a souvenir.
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Old 25th May 2022, 20:09
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Originally Posted by Burnt Fishtrousers View Post
So Top Gun was filmed in 86 ..presumably Maverick would have had a fairly well established flying career before being selected to go to Miramar...so lets say hes 30 years old in 86. If you roll on 30 years implying TG2 is set in 2016 he would be 60 years old ....are there really any 60 year old front line instructors out there? if it was set in present time hed be 66..fanciful stuff me thinks...hed likely as not be some staffer close to retirement flying a desk or retiring from an airline career - i havent seen the film so my observations might be answered
Mr Cruise was actually only 23 to 24 when he made the original. He's 59 now. At best he'd be amidst his first tour on F-14s possibly.

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Old 25th May 2022, 23:42
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RAAF Fast Jet Instructor Squadron Leader Philip Frawley retired from 76 Squadron at age 66. There was also an Israeli F16 Instructor who was active to age 60. Name not published for obvious reasons.
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Old 25th May 2022, 23:46
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy View Post
Mr Cruise was actually only 23 to 24 when he made the original. He's 59 now. At best he'd be amidst his first tour on F-14s possibly.

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Two pilots I know were combat ready and flying in GW1 as the youngest Jag Mate and the other was the youngest allied pilot full stop. Same age as Cruise was in Top Gun. Baggers was 55 years old in GW1 as well and Sqn flying. Looked way older than Cruise does and Tom is older. So almost technically possible to see in real life.
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Old 27th May 2022, 03:27
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Just saw TG2. Fantastic. As said by Otto, it is F3 of the original.
No spoilers here, but I did close my eyes for the bedroom scene, and loved the expletive as the enemy Gen5 fighter pirouetted in front of him.
He is looking good for 59, so don't discard the idea of a TG3.

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Old 27th May 2022, 08:16
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Good film. Actual story & probably the best acting I've seen TC do.
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Old 27th May 2022, 14:32
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TG2

Iím going to see it in a couple of hours. Iím like a kid on Christmas Eve. Iím so excited itís ridiculous! Weíre doing the full IMAX, 4D experience.

Iíll report back tomorrow.

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