35 years ago - Falklands
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I'm pretty sure that when we gather at the Cenotaph on the nearest Sunday to November 11th. we remember our own dead, quite sure I have not yet heard mention of Japanese, Italians or Germans.
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^^ What he said.
However, I do remember noting at a church parade some time ago a subtle change from 'our' dead to 'the' dead of war. On chatting to 'the God Squad' later over tea I asked and he was quite keen that his service was inclusive not just to combatants but innocent victims of all war.
At the going down of the sun.....
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However, I do remember noting at a church parade some time ago a subtle change from 'our' dead to 'the' dead of war. On chatting to 'the God Squad' later over tea I asked and he was quite keen that his service was inclusive not just to combatants but innocent victims of all war.
At the going down of the sun.....
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Blimey that long ago, I remember waving off my mates and seeing them all back slightly less jovial and subdued having survived the Conveyor.
C Met O STC on the phone to me at Bawtry
"The bastard Argies have invaded the Falklands!"
"So what's the plan? What are we doing?"
"Nothing. Word here is we can do buggerall!"
Was it not an Admiral who pursuaded Maggie to go for it?
"The bastard Argies have invaded the Falklands!"
"So what's the plan? What are we doing?"
"Nothing. Word here is we can do buggerall!"
Was it not an Admiral who pursuaded Maggie to go for it?
Yes, Admiral of the Fleet Sir Henry Conyers Leach.
It would have had to be a dark blue call as the other services were constrained by the lack of suitable land bases.. (without wishing to start this well-worn debate off again)
It would have had to be a dark blue call as the other services were constrained by the lack of suitable land bases.. (without wishing to start this well-worn debate off again)
Blimey that long ago, I remember waving off my mates and seeing them all back slightly less jovial and subdued having survived the Conveyor.
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Yes I was, so long ago, but still fresh in the memory CG.
Woptb, we all were.
Woptb, we all were.
I was the 33 Sqn duty crewman the night before the Canberra sailed, and I got a call telling me to pack up my crap, and to be ready to deploy on a single Puma afloat. Call never came, and the Pumas were never involved.
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Probably a good idea you didn't go, as the Argies flew Pumas on the islands a blue on blue might have happened. I believe a couple of times Harriers got a fleeting glimpse of a Puma and then attacked as they were bound to be not ours ?
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Err they also flew Chinooks. we on the other hand were the new kids on the block re operating them.
I think it was something to do with Wessex at the time being seen as a better alternative with the commonality of spares with the RN. Though some nice man did fly in with his Hughes 500 to look at making bags for I think the Puma.
I think it was something to do with Wessex at the time being seen as a better alternative with the commonality of spares with the RN. Though some nice man did fly in with his Hughes 500 to look at making bags for I think the Puma.
There was quite a bit of discussion around 5 years later of a ship clearance for Puma, and it didn't progress due to (in particular) the high vertical CG and narrow track undercarriage. I wonder if an early view along those lines also had something to do with them not being deployed in '82 into a South Atlantic winter?
A potential clearance was revisited several times after that but with much the same view from the operators, which also included thoughts on things like no blade fold and IIRC standard tie down points that were felt to be potential contributors to ground resonance when on the deck.
A potential clearance was revisited several times after that but with much the same view from the operators, which also included thoughts on things like no blade fold and IIRC standard tie down points that were felt to be potential contributors to ground resonance when on the deck.
Err they also flew Chinooks. we on the other hand were the new kids on the block re operating them.
I think it was something to do with Wessex at the time being seen as a better alternative with the commonality of spares with the RN. Though some nice man did fly in with his Hughes 500 to look at making bags for I think the Puma.
I think it was something to do with Wessex at the time being seen as a better alternative with the commonality of spares with the RN. Though some nice man did fly in with his Hughes 500 to look at making bags for I think the Puma.
Puma in a growbag- poetic really.CG
There was quite a bit of discussion around 5 years later of a ship clearance for Puma, and it didn't progress due to (in particular) the high vertical CG and narrow track undercarriage. I wonder if an early view along those lines also had something to do with them not being deployed in '82 into a South Atlantic winter?
A potential clearance was revisited several times after that but with much the same view from the operators, which also included thoughts on things like no blade fold and IIRC standard tie down points that were felt to be potential contributors to ground resonance when on the deck.
A potential clearance was revisited several times after that but with much the same view from the operators, which also included thoughts on things like no blade fold and IIRC standard tie down points that were felt to be potential contributors to ground resonance when on the deck.
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Very few of my friends got feet dry, most were paddling around the South Atlantic.
Yep, one with 30mm and another with wing-tip vortices. Cheap kill! All crew survived amazingly.