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ricardian 2nd Apr 2017 08:19

35 years ago - Falklands
 
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charliegolf 2nd Apr 2017 09:40

There were a great many more than 255 dead...

RIP

parabellum 3rd Apr 2017 02:48

I'm pretty sure that when we gather at the Cenotaph on the nearest Sunday to November 11th. we remember our own dead, quite sure I have not yet heard mention of Japanese, Italians or Germans.

Cows getting bigger 3rd Apr 2017 05:27

I'm pretty sure that many of us have moved on from being selective about the abhorrent price of war.

Duchess_Driver 3rd Apr 2017 06:29

^^ What he said.

However, I do remember noting at a church parade some time ago a subtle change from 'our' dead to 'the' dead of war. On chatting to 'the God Squad' later over tea I asked and he was quite keen that his service was inclusive not just to combatants but innocent victims of all war.

At the going down of the sun.....

DD

NutLoose 3rd Apr 2017 11:25

Blimey that long ago, I remember waving off my mates and seeing them all back slightly less jovial and subdued having survived the Conveyor.

langleybaston 3rd Apr 2017 12:30

C Met O STC on the phone to me at Bawtry

"The bastard Argies have invaded the Falklands!"

"So what's the plan? What are we doing?"

"Nothing. Word here is we can do buggerall!"

Was it not an Admiral who pursuaded Maggie to go for it?

PPRuNeUser0139 3rd Apr 2017 13:06

Yes, Admiral of the Fleet Sir Henry Conyers Leach.
It would have had to be a dark blue call as the other services were constrained by the lack of suitable land bases.. (without wishing to start this well-worn debate off again)

charliegolf 3rd Apr 2017 13:29


Blimey that long ago, I remember waving off my mates and seeing them all back slightly less jovial and subdued having survived the Conveyor.
You Odius then Nutty?

woptb 3rd Apr 2017 16:01

As a spotty 21 year old JT,I remember how excited & happy we were at the prospect of a fight with the Argies.
Pretty pathetic (my personal reaction, that is) in hindsight:sad:

NutLoose 3rd Apr 2017 17:15

Yes I was, so long ago, but still fresh in the memory CG.

Woptb, we all were.

charliegolf 3rd Apr 2017 18:11

I was the 33 Sqn duty crewman the night before the Canberra sailed, and I got a call telling me to pack up my crap, and to be ready to deploy on a single Puma afloat. Call never came, and the Pumas were never involved.

westernhero 3rd Apr 2017 20:41

Probably a good idea you didn't go, as the Argies flew Pumas on the islands a blue on blue might have happened. I believe a couple of times Harriers got a fleeting glimpse of a Puma and then attacked as they were bound to be not ours ?

NutLoose 3rd Apr 2017 22:09

Err they also flew Chinooks. we on the other hand were the new kids on the block re operating them.

I think it was something to do with Wessex at the time being seen as a better alternative with the commonality of spares with the RN. Though some nice man did fly in with his Hughes 500 to look at making bags for I think the Puma.

BossEyed 3rd Apr 2017 22:17

There was quite a bit of discussion around 5 years later of a ship clearance for Puma, and it didn't progress due to (in particular) the high vertical CG and narrow track undercarriage. I wonder if an early view along those lines also had something to do with them not being deployed in '82 into a South Atlantic winter?

A potential clearance was revisited several times after that but with much the same view from the operators, which also included thoughts on things like no blade fold and IIRC standard tie down points that were felt to be potential contributors to ground resonance when on the deck.

charliegolf 4th Apr 2017 10:18


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 9728613)
Err they also flew Chinooks. we on the other hand were the new kids on the block re operating them.

I think it was something to do with Wessex at the time being seen as a better alternative with the commonality of spares with the RN. Though some nice man did fly in with his Hughes 500 to look at making bags for I think the Puma.

Clearly remember those hideous green bags:ok: Puma in a growbag- poetic really.

CG

charliegolf 4th Apr 2017 10:19


Originally Posted by BossEyed (Post 9728617)
There was quite a bit of discussion around 5 years later of a ship clearance for Puma, and it didn't progress due to (in particular) the high vertical CG and narrow track undercarriage. I wonder if an early view along those lines also had something to do with them not being deployed in '82 into a South Atlantic winter?

A potential clearance was revisited several times after that but with much the same view from the operators, which also included thoughts on things like no blade fold and IIRC standard tie down points that were felt to be potential contributors to ground resonance when on the deck.

The average windspeeds in the Falklands in winter were seen as an eye opener too, Bossy.

CG

NutLoose 4th Apr 2017 20:55

Very few of my friends got feet dry, most were paddling around the South Atlantic.

salad-dodger 4th Apr 2017 21:31

A story for every occasion!

S-D

Mogwi 10th Apr 2017 16:36


Originally Posted by westernhero (Post 9728542)
Probably a good idea you didn't go, as the Argies flew Pumas on the islands a blue on blue might have happened. I believe a couple of times Harriers got a fleeting glimpse of a Puma and then attacked as they were bound to be not ours ?

Yep, one with 30mm and another with wing-tip vortices. Cheap kill! All crew survived amazingly.


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