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Two arrested over 'disarming warplanes' at BAE Systems in Warton

Old 30th Jan 2017, 16:07
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I wonder what those protesters grew (up?)into..
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Old 30th Jan 2017, 16:18
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probably in Parliament now as was the Chair or Secretary of CND, cannot remember her name - Joan Ruddock peut etre?
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Old 30th Jan 2017, 17:41
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I wonder what those protesters grew (up?)into..
They grew up?
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Old 30th Jan 2017, 18:28
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I'm no longer amazed by some of the comments on this thread. Shooting people, Thai hawk? Really? Thank God you don't reside here (hopefully).
Have a look. Couple of young lads for Gods sake.

Two arrested over 'disarming warplanes' at BAE Systems in Warton - BBC News

Also, hmmm.... maybe they've got a good point.
I mean lets be fair. We are British on here (mostly) and we are known for many things, eccentricity, including sticking up for the under-dog.
I've never been comfortable with a basically very odd country like Saudi using high tech weaponry to bomb ten bells out of a pretty unsophisticated civvy population in the Yemen.
Simple as.
Lighten up. And BAe.....I give up.
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Old 30th Jan 2017, 21:28
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It was quite common to see Quakers and Methodists at the gate as the site emptied in the evenings, usually they were just handing out leaflets and chatting while the traffic lights changed. While you might be sympathetic to their moral stance, I strongly suspect their basic premise is incorrect; is the Saudi Typhoon being used against Yemen?

Disputes in this area date back at least to the early 70s (Lightnings in ops with RAF secondee aircrew) and I believe the current flare up was initiated by the Yemenis' armed incursions across the border a few years ago. Since the initial skirmishes the Iranians have ratcheted up their involvement and support to the Yemenis as part of their geopolitical moves against the Saudis. This is far from the simple conflict depicted by our press.

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Old 31st Jan 2017, 09:37
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Some of the protesters even manage to get the hammers returned to them!

After the trial they were handed back the tools they used to attack the plane, which will presumably be used again for exactly the same purpose at some point in the future. Two of the hammers used at Shannon were also used to take out the B52 in 1991, but Ciaron noted that "they have such respect for private property that they keep giving us this stuff back”.

After the B52, one hammer was sent to England to destroy equipment at British Aerospace that was being used in east Timor and Northern Ireland. The hammers were then given to four women who disabled a Hawk fighter plane worth £2 million, passed on to a priest who used them to disable the nuclear convoy vehicle designed to carry warheads to Faslane naval base, then reunited with Ciaron after almost a decade and used in the Shannon sabotage.
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/c...destroyed-more
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 10:05
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This is far from the simple conflict depicted by our press
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--- and the likes of Hangarshuffle.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 14:47
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Simple enough if your a Yemeni civilian kid and a UK helped bomb drops on your head.
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 21:12
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Hangarshuffle,

If you are stupid enough to enter a clearly prohibited area ignoring posted warnings, IMHO you put yourself in the line of fire. Lethal force should be an option and snowflake idiots like you give encouragement to this kind of activity.
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Old 1st Feb 2017, 14:36
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"Simple enough if your a Yemeni civilian kid and a UK helped bomb drops on your head."

Oh for crying out loud...... You cant seriously be that naive?
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Old 1st Feb 2017, 17:35
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That he is Jabba - demonstrably so, frequently.
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Old 1st Feb 2017, 18:46
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Actually, we are the idiots for letting them get away with criminal damage. Meanwhile the Beeb promotes and rejoices.
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Old 1st Feb 2017, 19:55
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Sorry Jinda and Jabba (good double act name) I'm not that naļve, merely interested and very concerned in our countries involvement and direction within the Yemen.
I worked relatively nearby once, and I like the people of the region and more.
Worries me deeply about the loss of innocent civilian life there. There is British industrial military governmental involvement with this - its simply undeniable (and has been proven).
That RAF officers are lurking in the background of the Saudi command rooms, assisting in the air operation, and more..its pretty abhorrent.
Well I find it abhorrent anyway.
Naļve.....
Thai mate..in the UK you can only (if you are authorised to actually carry a weapon that is) open fire with that weapon if your own life or others is in immediate danger of death or injury by that lethal weapon or similar force. (That's how my little brain remembers it in times of stress anyway).
Private guards, UK police or military cant open fire and kill people if property is about to be damaged and upset their boss (especially in a factory).
I'm trying to break this gently to you.

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Old 1st Feb 2017, 20:07
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There is a fair old bit about it on You Tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKV8Yk2Ubt8
Scary former UK minister talking about how he sees things in the region, on C4 news.

Although out of courtesy to Jibba and Jabba above, if the RAF officers are in the CC room trying hard to discourage Saudi forces from blowing Yemeni people up with our western manufactured bombs via our western manufactured aircraft, they deserve at least some credit. (And get it documented if you are).

I could go on but I cant be ****** to. Everyone's got a position on the Yemen. Some peoples position is slavishly backing their former services current serving officers in their field posts, come what happens to others.
Others peoples position is selling and making arms for money to sell to Arabia to madly use as it sees it.
My naļve position is simply dare to report and comment on this, and think that that's wrong.
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Old 1st Feb 2017, 21:02
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Possibly off topic by now :-) but I heard today that the two alleged trespassers were spotted on CCTV and didn't even have the chance to get into any buildings.

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