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Thank you gents for some interesting responses, they raised some points that I will confess I hadn't thought of.
I will agree that to force one way or the other is wrong and should a player wear or not ought to be up to their own conscience
I might actually not wear one this year, it doesn't detract from the 364 days of the year I don't wear one and the circa 200 days I think about mates no longer present or the quiet words of thanks every time I pass a war memorial
But that never stops me from buying one, maybe this year I should put a bottle of the ''fiddich on the bar so all who pass can have a wee dram for remembering
I will agree that to force one way or the other is wrong and should a player wear or not ought to be up to their own conscience
I might actually not wear one this year, it doesn't detract from the 364 days of the year I don't wear one and the circa 200 days I think about mates no longer present or the quiet words of thanks every time I pass a war memorial
But that never stops me from buying one, maybe this year I should put a bottle of the ''fiddich on the bar so all who pass can have a wee dram for remembering
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I shall wear a poppy on Nov.11 as I do every year. You donīt see many where I live but I no longer get the questioning looks in the pub as all my friends and neighbours are now fully aware of what it means.
Personally I think that the ideal solution would be for all English and Scottish players taking part in the match to be allowed to wear a poppy - if they want to.
Once it becomes almost compulsory, as in TV presenters, etc, it becomes meaningless.
Once it becomes almost compulsory, as in TV presenters, etc, it becomes meaningless.
I thought the recognised way of getting something done by FIFA was just to slip the appropriate decision maker a brown envelope...
now now.......play nicely!
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1. Stuff football, FIFA and all the dirty money that swills around in its gutters.
2. Poppy is Remembrance of the Fallen, period. I'm sick of people playing the Race/Politics/Religion cards.
2. Poppy is Remembrance of the Fallen, period. I'm sick of people playing the Race/Politics/Religion cards.
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I watched that FIFA official on the news this morning spouting drivel about it being just one countries mark of respect, absolute drivel, she should look at a bloody map to see who was involved in WW1
And then check how many were involved in WW2
It was NEVER a symbol of one countries Fallen, but of all countries Fallen.
Course of the War 1914-18. Two sides of the war. In the First World War, the Allies, which made up of 27 states including France, Britain, Russia, Italy , the United States, Rumania, Greece, Serbia and Japan, fought against the Central Powers including Germany, Austria-Hungary, Turkey and Bulgaria.
Britain did not fight alone, the war also involved many countries. World War II involved 61 countries with 1.7 billion people (three quarters of the world's population). Fifty million people lost their lives and hundreds of millions people were injured.
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Hmmm, NutLoose, not quite I think. It is quintessentially a British thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haig_Fund
Today, the Haig Fund continues to support veterans from all conflicts and other military actions involving British Armed Forces up to today.
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Today, the poppy has become an emblem of faith for those who have served in the U.S. military, and the wearing of poppies continues to be an annual tradition on Memorial Day. More than 25 million Americans each year wear poppies as a tribute to the war dead.
Red poppy a living symbol of fallen soldiers - News - Bartlesville Examiner-Enterprise - Bartlesville, OK
Poppies have long been used as a symbol of sleep, peace, and death: Sleep because the opium extracted from them is a sedative, and death because of the common blood-red color of the red poppy in particular. In Greek and Roman myths, poppies were used as offerings to the dead.[4] Poppies used as emblems on tombstones symbolize eternal sleep. This symbolism was evoked in the children's novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, in which a magical poppy field threatened to make the protagonists sleep forever.[4]
The poppy of wartime remembrance is Papaver rhoeas, the red-flowered corn poppy. This poppy is a common weed in Europe and is found in many locations; including Flanders, which is the setting of the famous poem "In Flanders Fields," by the Canadian surgeon and soldier John McCrae. In Canada, the United Kingdom, the United States, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand, artificial poppies (plastic in Canada, paper in the UK, Australia, South Africa, Malta and New Zealand) are worn to commemorate those who died in war. This form of commemoration is associated with Remembrance Day, which falls on November 11. In Canada, Australia and the UK, poppies are often worn from the beginning of November through to the 11th, or Remembrance Sunday if that falls on a later date. In New Zealand and Australia, soldiers are commemorated on ANZAC day (April 25),[7] although the poppy is still commonly worn around Remembrance Day. Wearing of poppies has been a custom since 1924 in the United States. Miss Moina Michael of Georgia is credited as the founder of the Memorial Poppy in the United States.[8][9][10]
The poppy of wartime remembrance is Papaver rhoeas, the red-flowered corn poppy. This poppy is a common weed in Europe and is found in many locations; including Flanders, which is the setting of the famous poem "In Flanders Fields," by the Canadian surgeon and soldier John McCrae. In Canada, the United Kingdom, the United States, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand, artificial poppies (plastic in Canada, paper in the UK, Australia, South Africa, Malta and New Zealand) are worn to commemorate those who died in war. This form of commemoration is associated with Remembrance Day, which falls on November 11. In Canada, Australia and the UK, poppies are often worn from the beginning of November through to the 11th, or Remembrance Sunday if that falls on a later date. In New Zealand and Australia, soldiers are commemorated on ANZAC day (April 25),[7] although the poppy is still commonly worn around Remembrance Day. Wearing of poppies has been a custom since 1924 in the United States. Miss Moina Michael of Georgia is credited as the founder of the Memorial Poppy in the United States.[8][9][10]
It was NEVER a symbol of one countries Fallen, but of all countries Fallen.
Which is precisely the reason why the FAs of all 61 countries that took part in the War are demanding that their teams be allowed to wear poppies....oh, wait.
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Its a superior paper, 
but I did say at the very start I do agree in principal at what they are getting at, I just thought the FIFA female on the news this morning didn't know what she was talking about and hadn't the correct facts, as for giving her a bung, I think it would of had to be the other way round.
but I did say at the very start I do agree in principal at what they are getting at, I just thought the FIFA female on the news this morning didn't know what she was talking about and hadn't the correct facts, as for giving her a bung, I think it would of had to be the other way round.
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On my desk right now I have a "Buddy Poppy", acquired/donated for at a Craft show in Virginia. It has a tab on the stalk saying "Proceeds to the Veterans of Foreign Wars for Veterans Assistance Programs."
http://www.vfw.org/community/communi...ce/buddy-poppy
Doesn't make it a Haig Poppy, of course. And they were a year late
http://www.vfw.org/community/communi...ce/buddy-poppy
Doesn't make it a Haig Poppy, of course. And they were a year late
I was walking through Wembley yesterday on the way to the Barbarians South Africa rugby when our group was stopped by an old lady who asked where we got our poppies, as she hadn't managed to find one. It seems Wembley is a poppy free area
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Wearing a poppy is and should always be a personal choice, the press berating anyone in the media or politicians for not wearing one is just plainly wrong and actually degrades the meaning of the symbol.
It should be a personal choice to honour the fallen by wearing a poppy, not a requirement, service personnel actually do this at the raising and lowering of the Flag day in day out, not once a year.
It should be a personal choice to honour the fallen by wearing a poppy, not a requirement, service personnel actually do this at the raising and lowering of the Flag day in day out, not once a year.
