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Old 21st Nov 2016, 06:01
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Life saving jackets which were replaced by life preserver aircrew.

The rest of civilisation calls them life jackets.

PS, the firearm was the mini-flare pen not to be confused with a mini-gun.
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Another delightful habit of some FJ stations was their refusal to send MT to collect their chaps until they'd been told that the aircraft had landed at Brize.

Not only FJ Stations - Waddington used to do this as well. I remember waiting for a few hours for MT at Brize after a 4 month det to Stanley. There were 3 of us on the flight for Waddington who duly sent an Astra for 3 pax plus 4 months kit. Bless.
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As an aside, any 90 or 543 crews of the period o n here?
Hi , Sandym. I was on 90 from 58 to 62 . Flew with Duke N . I was only 20 then.In at the deep end ,learned fast, still flying, never going to grow up .
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What was your war role then before tanking?
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been following this thread with some interest; found another web-sit here
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which pretty much implies the dispersal plan would never have worked due to limitations of flying with armed weapons; AND they (weapons) couldn't be transported by road assembled as too dangerous.




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which pretty much implies the dispersal plan would never have worked due to limitations of flying with armed weapons; AND they (weapons) couldn't be transported by road assembled as too dangerous.
True with respect to Violet Club\Yellow Sun Mk1. I cannot comment on Blue Danube. However not true once WE177 came into service. As for Blue Steel, well let's not go there......

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Igor toolbox, you appeared to have picked up only part of the story. It is true that Violet Club and Red Beard were never cleared for Service use. They were deployed and could have been issued had HMG been so minded.

This was not true of either Yellow Sun 2 or WE177.

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Posted at same time as Yellow Sun. The point about RB is that it was deployed, training rounds were available, air and ground crews were trained and operational plans were in place. However all documentation was PROVISIONAL and not cleared for use with operational weapons. APPROVED documentation was never issued.

I once saw a Buccanner make a simulated LABS attack, bomb door open and RB visible (overland) when pictures of the bomb were still classified
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I once saw a Buccaneer make a simulated LABS attack, bomb door open and RB visible (overland) when pictures of the bomb were still classified

One of our allegedly better qualified and more responsible chaps was selected to long toss a '2000 lb shape' ... ... at Tabones. After release, rather than continuing with the escape manoeuvre, it was said he rolled and 'flew wing' on the shape for a while, to see what it would do. Normally, the floating scrap metal merchants would flop around on the oggin, catching the rays, while waiting to paddle in and dive to pick up their raison d'etre ( it was a dummy range only, unlike Crow Valley, but there was still money to be had) It was subsequently said that when they eyeballed this unusually large incoming, they bomb burst outwards on a 'magtampisaw para sa iyong buhay, amigos!' basis.

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LFH, El Adem range was cleared to 1,000lb HE. For live drops the staff would withdraw to the Quads at 6,000yr s, now this might be how the Arabs knew to keep away. With the close Quads manned the Arabs used to hide behind the target and collect the practice bombs.
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PN, the move to the outer Quads was prudent. In the late 50s it was decided to let the detached Canberra squadron at Luqa - us - get rid of some of the 1000lb HE left in Malta after Suez. The cunning plan was for a squadron (16 UE) night FRA at El Adem, one bomb per a/c, using a NBS wind passed by a Valiant ahead of us - what could go wrong? Well, the Boss got a 7000yd undershoot - the static line to the bomb had snapped, the pin didn't come out so the fins hadn't flipped out. It went off alright but the burst was so far back that the crew logged a UXB.
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binbrook, as good as the Victor at Song Song. Not sure how many but certainly HE and according to the Aussie RSO that told me, heard but not seen.
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