Whopee! Medals for all!
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Thanks for that.
It really is good to have your expertise available on these things.
The MBE comes in the category of "Orders", ie everything from the Most Noble Order of the Garter to the The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. Precedence among orders is basically in chronological order of the founding of the order (lots of "orders" in that sentence, but you get what I mean!).
"Decorations" are what we would understand as gallantry awards, such as the DFC, AFC etc.
"Decorations" are what we would understand as gallantry awards, such as the DFC, AFC etc.
It really is good to have your expertise available on these things.
Whilst perusing this thread having just viewed 'the unstoppable Derek Oldham' one covering his 50 years of service in the RAF, it occurred to me that as he transferred to the reserves 3 years ago after 'only' 47 years of regular time he probably won't be eligible for a LS medal. Somewhat ironic given that he's likely to be the longest serving RAF officer ever?
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I've always though that for most Civvy orders we should go back to the practise of James VI & I and auction them off to teh highest bidder
Say 1 Dukedom every 5 years, 1 Earl and a couple of Viscounts a year and maybe just a standing fee for Knighthood - say £ 1 mm....................
rotate the auction between the BBC & ITV and make some cash on the TV rights.
Say 1 Dukedom every 5 years, 1 Earl and a couple of Viscounts a year and maybe just a standing fee for Knighthood - say £ 1 mm....................
rotate the auction between the BBC & ITV and make some cash on the TV rights.
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So how much for me to purchase my well-deserved LS&GC and Bar?
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I'll take one for me, and one for my wife, both with Bar please. Do we get a multi-buy discount? 
"But wait! ... order in the next 5 minutes and we will send you not one but TWO of these desirable trinkets. Just pay shipping and handling ... "
"But wait! ... order in the next 5 minutes and we will send you not one but TWO of these desirable trinkets. Just pay shipping and handling ... "
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Damn ... your profile says London, not Nigeria 
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LJ,
You are perfectly correct in my case, left Regular service in 2008 after 22.5 years, had an overlapping start date in the Reserves, ready to go. Am still serving, with a continuous commission for over 30 years, ....that gets me......sweet FA! Oh well, one less to get mounted. I shall just have people thinking that I have been a naughty boy and do not deserve any recognition for my advancing years.
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You are perfectly correct in my case, left Regular service in 2008 after 22.5 years, had an overlapping start date in the Reserves, ready to go. Am still serving, with a continuous commission for over 30 years, ....that gets me......sweet FA! Oh well, one less to get mounted. I shall just have people thinking that I have been a naughty boy and do not deserve any recognition for my advancing years.
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Bananaboy.
Just tell them you have not got one. because they were solely brought out to appease the petulant trinket grabbing Chav brigade who would sell their soul for a bit of tacky bling, and those with real service behind them do not need a bit of tin to impress or to massage their own ego's.
Just tell them you have not got one. because they were solely brought out to appease the petulant trinket grabbing Chav brigade who would sell their soul for a bit of tacky bling, and those with real service behind them do not need a bit of tin to impress or to massage their own ego's.
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because they were solely brought out to appease the petulant trinket grabbing Chav brigade who would sell their soul for a bit of tacky bling, and those with real service behind them do not need a bit of tin to impress or to massage their own ego's.
...why should the same not be done for regular officers?
I stress 'regular'. Most FTRS mercenaries probably don't fall into this category - and why should they?
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Our esteemed Lt Gov, Sir John McColl, has just had to have his rack rebuilt, having recently been made a Knight of St John. Will he/can he go for the LS&GC as well, or has he got enough to carry around already?
And, having retired as DSACEUR in 2011, is he even eligible? Or does his service as Lt Gov , 2011-date still count?
And, having retired as DSACEUR in 2011, is he even eligible? Or does his service as Lt Gov , 2011-date still count?
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Does this mean that airmen only have to do an extra 10 years to get their bar or is it still 15 years for them?
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he clasp to the medal will be awarded for every further period of 10 years served
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I can't work out whether some of the disparaging comments being made are genuinely held beliefs or individuals simply being deliberately provocative. Are we really such curmudgeons as to begrudge personnel who have served for for the prerequisite period the medallic recognition which is available to their non-commissioned and reservist peers? I accept that there will quite naturally be differences of opinion on qualifying service and start date, but surely the underlying principle of equity is easy to accept?
The LS&GCMs have undergone a number of significant amendments since their inception and this is simple another step in an ongoing medallic evolutionary process. This change was proposed unprompted by Sir John Holmes in his medal report; as an outsider looking in he identified what he considered to be a clear and illogical anomally, which consequently he suggested might be addressed.
Wearing a medal for which I would have qualified had I not taken my commission makes me a chav with a need to massage my own ego, apparently. Having already spent 25 years in the service, undertaken my fair share of op tours and served both in the ranks and as an officer I will wear my LS&GCM (and clasp!) with pride (does that count as ego massaging?) That admission clearly means that I haven't undertaken what NutLoose refers to as "real service", whatever that might be. I await enlightenment.
If it's good enough for HM it's good enough for me.
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The LS&GCMs have undergone a number of significant amendments since their inception and this is simple another step in an ongoing medallic evolutionary process. This change was proposed unprompted by Sir John Holmes in his medal report; as an outsider looking in he identified what he considered to be a clear and illogical anomally, which consequently he suggested might be addressed.
Wearing a medal for which I would have qualified had I not taken my commission makes me a chav with a need to massage my own ego, apparently. Having already spent 25 years in the service, undertaken my fair share of op tours and served both in the ranks and as an officer I will wear my LS&GCM (and clasp!) with pride (does that count as ego massaging?) That admission clearly means that I haven't undertaken what NutLoose refers to as "real service", whatever that might be. I await enlightenment.
If it's good enough for HM it's good enough for me.
MB
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