Whopee! Medals for all!
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NutLoose ... my framed faux LSGC & Bar will, I'm sure, be treasured by my son, with or without engraved lettering. He will probably be more interested in the 6-figure legacy, though!
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The eligibility start date is the whole point of contention. I do not see the selection of a date that satisfies a generous spirit towards the award, covering as many as possible rather than the mean spirited few as possible - as has been imposed, to be a difficult task for a suitable study. In fact, I am sure this work will have already been done before the ridiculous penny-pinching cut-off was made!
My own opinion is that the start date should go back as far as possible, within the scope of the other criteria for the award and, without conflicting with other awards or protocols.
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The eligibility start date is the whole point of contention. I do not see the selection of a date that satisfies a generous spirit towards the award, covering as many as possible rather than the mean spirited few as possible - as has been imposed, to be a difficult task for a suitable study. In fact, I am sure this work will have already been done before the ridiculous penny-pinching cut-off was made!
My own opinion is that the start date should go back as far as possible, within the scope of the other criteria for the award and, without conflicting with other awards or protocols. OAP
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I'd be more than happy for everyone to get a LSGC medal if I can return to my final salary pension, because why is my service deemed less valuable than those who served before me based on an arbitrary date?
The reality is that regardless of feelings of right or wrong, we do not live in a world of endless means. Although I would love to still be on a final salary pension, it is simply unaffordable now with all you retired folk living to 130.
It would be nice to award the medal to everyone but there is no gain to defence in doing so and therefore is an unnecessary expense. Life isn't always fair.
The reality is that regardless of feelings of right or wrong, we do not live in a world of endless means. Although I would love to still be on a final salary pension, it is simply unaffordable now with all you retired folk living to 130.
It would be nice to award the medal to everyone but there is no gain to defence in doing so and therefore is an unnecessary expense. Life isn't always fair.
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I'd be more than happy for everyone to get a LSGC medal if I can return to my final salary pension, because why is my service deemed less valuable than those who served before me based on an arbitrary date?
If you served in the ranks before 1975, you had to do 22 years to get any pension.
My almost 13 years got me a big fat Zero. Those were the rules of the day.
It encourages one to work harder in civvy St.
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This LS award is not a substitute for pay or pension.
You say yourself "it would be nice to award the medal to everyone", I presume you mean the "everyone" who does the LS time criteria in the services? Expense, we are just talking qualifying for those retired here, I proposed earlier that retired personel could qualify but be left to purchase the medal, if cost is an insurmountable problem for HMG.
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This LS award is not a substitute for pay or pension.
You say yourself "it would be nice to award the medal to everyone", I presume you mean the "everyone" who does the LS time criteria in the services? Expense, we are just talking qualifying for those retired here, I proposed earlier that retired personel could qualify but be left to purchase the medal, if cost is an insurmountable problem for HMG. OAP
FY
This LS award is not a substitute for pay or pension. You say yourself "it would be nice to award the medal to everyone", I presume you mean the "everyone" who does the LS time criteria in the services? Expense, we are just talking qualifying for those retired here, I proposed earlier that retired personel could qualify but be left to purchase the medal, if cost is an insurmountable problem for HMG.
OAP
This LS award is not a substitute for pay or pension.
You say yourself "it would be nice to award the medal to everyone", I presume you mean the "everyone" who does the LS time criteria in the services? Expense, we are just talking qualifying for those retired here, I proposed earlier that retired personel could qualify but be left to purchase the medal, if cost is an insurmountable problem for HMG. OAP
Cheers superplum.
I apologise if I was taking the good conduct bit as read.
Thinking about the status of the commisioned / non-commisioned awards, I guess the LS&GC award was available if claimed after retirement due to admin error? Has that avenue now been closed? Also, as far as equality goes, there is an ongoing situation now, where officers who would have recieved an award if there was parity at the time, are now barred from retrospectively recieving the award. Stupid
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I apologise if I was taking the good conduct bit as read.
Thinking about the status of the commisioned / non-commisioned awards, I guess the LS&GC award was available if claimed after retirement due to admin error? Has that avenue now been closed? Also, as far as equality goes, there is an ongoing situation now, where officers who would have recieved an award if there was parity at the time, are now barred from retrospectively recieving the award. StupidOAP
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It would seem that none of us dispute that the requisite time in uniform deserves the medal. The main argument seems to be the cost to finance the medal for all qualifying cases if there were not an arbitrary cut-off date. So, how about anybody who has qualified, regardless of dates, can have and wear the medal. Serving personnel should get the medal free, all others can order and pay for it.
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Back in 1980 when I qualified for the LS & GCM I was awarded a £5 bounty. Is this still being paid out?
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How long is one's service record kept after leaving the Service?
Service records for those who left before 1920 have been transferred to the National Archives, and MOD has been in discussion with the National Archives about the transfer of service records for those who served after 1920 - particularly those who served during the Second World War.
I would expect MOD to retain service records for as long as they might reasonably need access (perhaps for 80 years from the date of enlistment) and then transfer the records to TNA.
I would expect MOD to retain service records for as long as they might reasonably need access (perhaps for 80 years from the date of enlistment) and then transfer the records to TNA.
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