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Old 8th Jun 2016, 18:25
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Strategic industry?

The last factory in the UK capable of making a ships propeller closed years ago and nobody cared. So much for a maritime nation. BREXIT will make bugger all difference to whether Westlands stays open or not.
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Old 8th Jun 2016, 19:12
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I could go either way on whether we should, but I must admit that I agree that if we left we might be the first of many.

That would probably be the ideal outcome for the UK.

Leave, and then get together with the more similar countries once it all breaks uk.

UK, Germany, and the Northern countries. Essentially any country that knows how to queue.
Queueing is not a national characteristic I would ascribe to the Germans. Maybe if we aligned with cricket playing nations things might be a bit more civilised. At least we'd stop for tea at 1630 each day.
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Mmmmm.....you all need to look closer to what's happening at Yeovil. Boeing have a Design Centre about 200m from the Leonardo Main Gate and have been harvesting AW's finest for the last two years... The ignorance of the Italian management and the U.K. managers who have aligned themselves with this dictatorship has allowed the heart to be ripped out of the company. Those who value their career and are true professionals have left for Thales, MBDA and Boeing...the end is nigh for Westlands and it's an insult to those who made the company great.

The corrupt Italians with their narrow minded attitude are responsible for the downfall...the monkeys are truly running the zoo!
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Yea I remember that factory/foundry closing Eric = up Weardale wasn't it? Wolsingham. Its totally flattened now - I drove past it a while back.
Brexit will win this one. See it coming. Straw poll with my mates in drink and everyone seemed to want out. Immigration is the big issue and the referendum the outlet for rage.
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I would suggest that BrExit would merely be a convenient scapegoat if we voted Leave.
Sums it up beautifully, and probably not just for Leonardo - Finmeccanica.
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I do wonder if we jump, whether the EU will implode in on itself, I can forsee other Countries watching with interest the post departure effect on our economy, and if they see a positive effect to leaving, possibly calling their own referendums. .

What I don't want to see is what happened in Eire where they repeated the vote until they got the result Europe wanted in the Lisbon treaty ratification.
Rather like the SDP over the Scottish vote, where they seem incapable of accepting the obvious. Neither are democracy at work.



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Leave the EU and rejoin the World as an independent sovereign nation state.
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Genstabler - why because it was better in the good old days?
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He is not the only one for it Bladdered.
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Old 9th Jun 2016, 15:29
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Just saying Nutloose - my recollection of the 50s and early 60s when we were an independent trading nation were not as 'great' as the 'grey vote' seem to be alluding to in the frequent interviews I see. Oh well, we can always get into bed with Donald - he will look after us.
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N Zealand better start to ramp lamb production back up, along with the Danes and their bacon


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Old 9th Jun 2016, 16:18
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...my recollection of the 50s and early 60s when we were an independent trading nation were not as 'great' as the 'grey vote' seem to be alluding to in the frequent interviews I see...
Quite so, Bladdered! And as for the joys of travelling 'on the continent', with v-forms, sterling limits, green cards, no reciprocal health agreements, bail bonds, International Driving Permits.....and the 'bottle and 200' being all you were allowed to bring home. At least the younger generation are going to vote against anything which might risk their LoCo airline trips to various parts of Europe for cheap fun.

But the crumblies think that the sun always shone on an empire (which no longer exists), 'W*gs began at Calais', BMC cars and Bush TVs beat anything 'foreign'. They probably also still believe that spaghetti grows on trees, because Dim Dickie Dimbleby told them so on Panorama.
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Beags - I think you need a lie down old chap. Don't get quite so excited, it is not good for we more mature chaps
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Never the 'twain...

Anyhow, story is rattling around in a few nationals. Will have to wait and see because a few haven't decided which way (if any) they're going to tilt. Fun and games.
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Old 9th Jun 2016, 18:45
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At least the younger generation are going to vote against anything which might risk their LoCo airline trips to various parts of Europe for cheap fun.
Well, ish. A fair proportion of them are quite a bit more cosmopolitan than we give them credit for, having travelled a helluva lot more and wider than we'd all done at their age. They wonder what all the fuss is about.

When I were a lad, I thought the Isle of Wight was exotic, faraway destination...
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And as for the joys of travelling 'on the continent', with v-forms, sterling limits, green cards, no reciprocal health agreements, bail bonds, International Driving Permits.....and the 'bottle and 200' being all you were allowed to bring home.
Why do you think we will be back to that Beagle?
But the crumblies think that the sun always shone on an empire (which no longer exists), 'W*gs began at Calais', BMC cars and Bush TVs beat anything 'foreign'. They probably also still believe that spaghetti grows on trees, because Dim Dickie Dimbleby told them so on Panorama
How mature.
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Genstabler - why because it was better in the good old days
No. Because I would like to live in a sovereign nation which can trade with the whole world should it wish to, make its own decisions and not be subject to the undemocratic government of the EU superstate and its 28 provinces.
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A trade deals does not need a president, an anthem, a flag, a currency, a parliament, the ability to make law, tens of billions of pounds of donations, its own paramilitary police force. Neither does it need to plan an army.
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Old 9th Jun 2016, 19:50
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Couple of points.
I'm currently in Greece and it was announced on flight out that duty free fags and booze couldn't be sold as we're in the EU! Bottle and 200 would be most welcome.
My current car insurance states on revese it is minimum for Europe. Does it matter if this is on a print yourself A4 sheet or green card. When I went to my niece's wedding in Bielefeld recently would it matter if I had to make a brief stop at the borders. Had to do it every weekend when shopping in Venlo from Laarbruch.
As long as the EU orders us to keep European criminals and our government can't/won't/or is told to deport Commonwealth citizens then out is the only option. And as others have said. Will they stop selling us BM W, VW, Skoda. I drive a British (Indian and Commonwealth) Jag. What about you? Everything electronic in my house is far eastern so as far as aware not reliant on Europe for anything but they rely on me as a net payer. So how come my voice via our MEP's is unheard.
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Old 9th Jun 2016, 19:59
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Wander00 wrote:
Beags - I think you need a lie down old chap. Don't get quite so excited, it is not good for we more mature chaps
I'm not excited at all - just back from driving my German car to a German owned supermarket to buy German sausages and Belgian beer. In British West Oxfordshire.

Whilst sporting a UK/EU crossed flags lapel badge...

Like it or not, the UK is no longer some isolated insular state, neither is it running a British Empire on which the sun never sets. Because it has.
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