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Eye in the Sky - Alan Rickman's Brevet.

Old 25th Apr 2016, 21:45
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He is in fact wearing the uniform of a Royal Marine Lt general, the wings I've never seen before.

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Old 25th Apr 2016, 23:18
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He is in fact wearing the uniform of a Royal Marine Lt general
Wrong material to be RM



... and then there's the shirt & tie ...
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Old 26th Apr 2016, 09:07
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Sloppy Link;
Early on in the formation of the Parachute Regiment, as whole Battalions were re-roled, Para Wings were worn on the left breast, before anyone calls "utter tosh" I have a phot of my father, Royal Sussex, who was re-roled in this form of dress.
The problem with saying things such as that ...;

The 10th (Sussex) Parachute Battalion was an airborne infantry battalion of the Parachute Regiment, raised by the British Army during the Second World War.

The battalion was raised around volunteers from the Royal Sussex Regiment at Kibrit in the Middle East. Assigned to the 4th Parachute Brigade, they joined the 1st Airborne Division in Tunisia. The battalion fought their first action in Operation Slapstick part of the Allied invasion of Italy. They were then withdrawn to England at the end of 1943. Being held in reserve during the Normandy landings, their second action was in Operation Market Garden (Sept 1944) in the Netherlands.

The battalion landed on the second day of the Battle of Arnhem and unable to reach their assigned objective, it was gradually destroyed over two days of fighting. The surviving men managed to withdraw into the divisional position at Oosterbeek. After holding a position in the perimeter, the handful of men left were evacuated south of the River Rhine. The battalion never recovered from the heavy casualties, sustained during the battle and was disbanded. The surviving men being posted to the battalions of the 1st Parachute Brigade.
note: The 1st Airborne Division were carried to Italy by sea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...British_forces


It would seem that your old man might have been misled in the sewing department SL as everyone in these pictures have their wings on their shoulders;

No 10 Platoon, B Coy, 10th Parachute Battalion, June 1944


B Coy, 10th Para Bn, June 1944


Larger versions available on page 2 of https://paradata.org.uk/media/6670?m...n=Group+photos



You'll be telling us next that your father was always the only one in step
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Old 26th Apr 2016, 17:37
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... and then there's the shirt & tie ...
Indeed Sir I'll grant the shirt and tie look more like they come from the Army, but his uniform in Lovat Green as is that of his ADC, the Captain, who also wears the wreath encircled globe insignia of the RM on his lapels. Further, the buttons on both are Black, definitely Marines or possibly a Light Infantry Regiment, i.e. The Rifles. But all points to his being a Marine Officer.

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Old 26th Apr 2016, 17:49
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Prince Andrew appears on the preceding page wearing the uniform of the Royal Irish Regiment.

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Old 26th Apr 2016, 20:09
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If he is supposed to be a Royal;

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/~/media/...3book/ch40.pdf


Parachutist Badge. The Army pattern parachutist badge, a parachute with wings, should be worn on the right arm 51 mm below the shoulder seam, by personnel who are qualified parachutists as follows:
(1) Blue and white tunics. The full sized badge in gold on blue. On white tunics the badge is to be mounted on Velcro to permit removal for washing.
(2) Lovat tunics. A two-thirds size badge in gold on green.
(3) Mess jackets. The miniature badge (length 51mm, height 20mm) gold on scarlet. On white mess jackets the badge is to be mounted on Velcro to permit removal for washing.
(4) Stone tunics and shirts. The full-sized badge in light blue/white on khaki drill.
(5) Combat Dress (PCS Jackets and Windproofs). The full-sized badge in black on green. If black on green badges are not available, the full-sized badge in light blue/white on khaki drill may be worn as an alternative.
You'll notice however that the Gorget Patches worn by AR's character have gold buttons, whereas the real RM Lt Gen parading with Prince Harry has darkened buttons
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 07:52
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Alan Rickman is not wearing any British Army uniform known to me and I was a soldier for 34 years. It isn't RM either. God knows what he's supposed to be.
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 08:29
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Looks a bit Irish to me, very much like casting a 70 year old to play a Colonel and the least said for the badge type and placement of the better.
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 15:25
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Out of interest, has anyone resolved the reason why RPV pilots and mission specialists wear flying overalls? Normal military working dress would be perfectly appropriate. I have this feeling that their airships have seen that the future is drone-coloured and want to preserve the concept of pilots being different.
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 15:36
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 15:46
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Alan Rickman is not wearing any British Army uniform known to me and I was a soldier for 34 years
Not only that but his hair is far too short. As far as I can tell, with army officers, the higher the rank, the longer the hair. Curling over the collar seems to be the norm for generals!
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 21:05
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The shirt and tie are not from any British Army or RM uniform. Looks Dutch if anything. Dogs breakfast. Useless prop department.
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 22:36
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So what we're basically concluding is that British military uniform is anything but uniform.

You only have to look at the photo of HRH to see the full spectrum. HRH's shirt collar is a traditional pointed affair whilst the chap behind is sporting some Apprentice-esque spread collar that wouldn't be out of place in Leadenhall Market once the trading desks were closed. There's even a Navy chap in a skirt and heels behind them. In fact I think the only place I have seen standardised uniform is in McDonalds. And they get more medals there too
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 22:46
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Looks like HRH is wearing black shoes - is my memory playing tricks, ISTR wearing brown Oxfords with Service Dress, but it might just be age
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Old 27th Apr 2016, 23:38
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Generally speaking you are correct, but black shoes are worn with service dress in the Royal Irish Regiment.*

As Melchett said - military uniform is anything but!

When I was a young Rockape I did the Infantry Platoon Commanders' Course at Warminster. Back in 1966 there were a lot more regiments than now, and when everyone turned up in service dress for the course photo there were hardly two the same out of around 60 of us! Freezing my whatsits off in a slit trench on Salisbury Plain in February was when the first germ of an idea of applying to go aircrew entered my mind!

*Oops - wrong HRH - you were talking about young Harry. Maybe the same rule applies to the AAC!
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 07:40
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Harry was never badged as AAC; he always served as a Household Cavalry officer and would follow their Regimental customs; my experience of Army officers shoes were they came in many different shades of brown and bulling sometimes involved using both brown and black polish to achieve the desired colour.
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 08:12
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Ttn. We may have been on the same Warminster course!
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 10:04
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I thought the uniform was that of the RM, certainly his aid, wearing the same uniform has, seen in close up, the Globe insignia of the Marines on his lapels. It wouldn't be too unusual to have a Marine in charge of what really should have been an RAF operation anyway!? or do the Army/Marines also operate Reapers now?

The new VCDS appointed is a Marine, Gordon Messenger, don't know if he's a General or still a Lt Gen yet or if he has his obligatory Knighthood?

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Old 28th Apr 2016, 10:06
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genstabler - Jan - Feb 1966 - my syndicate officer was an RM captain who thought I was an idiot (not far out at the time!)
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Old 28th Apr 2016, 10:30
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Ttn. I think I must have been on the Warminster course before you. I certainly did Hythe at the end of 65. Bloody miserable weather as I recall, though I can't remember much about it at this distance. Good course though. It was my first formal military training for reasons I won't bore you with.
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