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Old 17th Apr 2016, 18:46
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Drone hits British Airways plane near Heathrow

With this latest news regarding drones, should this concern Military flying units, more than the civilian airfields.
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I doubt the drone hit the aeroplane, I would suspect the aeroplane hit the drone!
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Nah ... Good excuse to start up a few Clay Shooting Clubs
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I'd be surprised if the drone operator intended for the incident to happen but perhaps it's prudent to assume the worst until you're sure. There are LOTS of motivations that could be behind this one, perhaps some not so innocent. Thankfully, nobody appears to have been hurt so some good will come of it by giving the wider issue the publicity it so desperately needs.

Legislation exists but isn't always followed by the masses. Education is the key; i.e. getting the message out to Drone operators on the consequences of not following the CAA's rules, especially those who buy and fly without doing their homework first.
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I see there is call for investigation on the effect of a drone impact. Stupid knee jerk, so many variables - size, speed, accidentally or deliberate, point of impact etc etc.

Obviously large enough drone though a particular engine on a twin engine aircraft could be critical. Small drone might even be blown off before impact.

I liked the film, Dutch I think, with falcons trained to take drones down, and anti-drone missiles to catch them.
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I see there is call for investigation on the effect of a drone impact. Stupid knee jerk, so many variables - size, speed, accidentally or deliberate, point of impact etc etc.
Surely that's the point - to investigate the effects of those variables. Seems prudent to me.
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Bit like the difference between frozen chickens and sparrows....
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Mel, in theory. In practice I suggest too many variables. May be model and select most probable and greatest risk. Narrow it down to largest common engine and select a high mass drone.
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In practice I suggest too many variables.
But surely you can say that about any hazard facing commercial aviation today. For example, why test for birdstrike, given that all the variables that you highlighted for drones are just as applicable for birds (save for the deliberate collision perhaps, though not sure it will make much a difference to the ultimate outcome whether the object meant to hit the aircraft or not)?
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AAIB are investigating the incident...

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...heathrow-event

The main news outlets kept using an unusual phrase yesterday. "The polit claimed..." rather than just stating it as a certainty. IIRC, one of the reports said the aircraft was cleared for flight again, but they didn't mention any apparent damage.
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"AAIB are investigating the incident..."

So after this, drone flying shows will be tightly regulated?

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I have no idea about that. But I suspect recommendations will be forthcoming. There have been some interesting prosecutions here in France.
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Small drone might even be blown off before impact.
Do you have any experience to arrive at this conclusion?


Simulation of 8 lb drone being ingested by a jet engine - DIY Drones

8 pounds isn't all that big.
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It's still quite big compared to the ebay specials most likely to be flown by idiots. The U.S. seem to be on right lines insisting on registration which means the owner can be traced if it's involved in an accident
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A good Matt cartoon today
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PN your post no5. Birdwatching pedant here!

The bird was an Eagle, even the biggest falcons wouldn't dare take on a drone.

A neighbour of mine was gardening and someone on the adjacent common flew a drone very close to his head, 'Fair enough, perhaps he's learning to operate it ' thought he. Then it happened again, obviously deliberately, and William smashed it to pieces with his spade.The owner beat a hasty retreat when he realised from his accent that my friend is a very tough Glaswegian!
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I agree with the Americans. In my opinion, registered drones, licensed operators and restricted areas of operation are essential. If the laws are not followed, hang 'em from the yard arm.
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flew a drone very close to his head . . William smashed it to pieces with his spade
Seems fair to me:

Toddler's eyeball sliced in half by drone propeller - BBC News
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Funny that the US insists on registered drones etc but not registered guns....

They have not really thought this through logically.
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Drone hits British Airways plane near Heathrow
Somehow, does seems extremely unlikely. More likely is "British Airways plane hits drone near Heathrow."
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