Long Service Medal for Officers
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JSP 761 suggests otherwise ref ACSM 11 and UN medals (and I presume ACSM 94 was at least broadly similar):
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...P761_Part1.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...P761_Part1.pdf
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If I were a betting man, I'd say they would claim that allowing you to include the original medal earning period counted as double medalling and therefore to stop it, ACSM time only starts after the initial qualifying period. If that's the case, it's exactly the sort of thing I would change if God for the day and allowed to revamp our utterly inflexible, and on occasions, stubbornly mean spirited medals policy.
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JSP 761 suggests otherwise ref ACSM 11 and UN medals (and I presume ACSM 94 was at least broadly similar):
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...P761_Part1.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...P761_Part1.pdf
Annex 8A and 8B say UN or NATO medals can be used.
Alfred, don't be naughty, it is after 2000 on a case by case basis.
16 The published DCI/DIN relating to a multi-national operation will state whether service counts towards the ACSM.
16 The published DCI/DIN relating to a multi-national operation will state whether service counts towards the ACSM.
Just received my 'failed to be convicted' medal and clasp in the post. With equal ceremony it has gone into a drawer. They are not exactly rushing theses things out.
Anyway, back to avoiding another clasp.
Anyway, back to avoiding another clasp.
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JTO, if it’s any consolation I got my WO's warrant 3.5 years after the event via internal mail. On the plus side it did have that nice Mr Hoon's 'signature' on it, remember him?
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Which makes three of the silly things. One that arrived a couple of years after I was commissioned; a second given to me when I was promoted to CAPT; and the one discovered this week. All three signed by a mix of three different MINDEFs and two GGs ... none of whom were the MINDEF or GG at the time of my commissioning!
Should I feel hurt?......
.......after 35 years regular service followed by 8 years auxiliary service, including being mobilised at the age of 62??
Oddly, I don't think I am.
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Oddly, I don't think I am.
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If I did my 16 years GD commission in the 60's and 70's , how do I go about requesting a LS&GC medal ? Do I write to MOD or will I be contacted ?
Has anyone yet received the medal ?
Was it a painless process ?
Has anyone yet received the medal ?
Was it a painless process ?
RHKAAF
Assuming this is not a wind up you may wish to read through the thread from the beginning and then either delete your post or follow my post with a rant similar to many that already adorn this thread.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.
BV
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.
BV
So does that mean I won't be retrospectively getting the Golden and Silver jubilee medals because I happened to be alive when they issued them and did the qualifying time at some point during my career?!
As an ex-regular officer with 31 years service, I was quite looking forward to being awarded an LS&GCM to bring me into line with my Halton trained father. However, it quickly became apparent that I would not be eligible due to the actual timing period of my service.
However, any disappointment was quickly overcome when having had my regular service declared ineligible for the LS&GCM, I learned I could count three years of that towards my VR long service award and that nice lady who lives at the bottom of Constitution Hill did the rest.
I must say this latest bit of bling has a certain 'snob appeal' about it and it was much admired by an air force 'big cheese' I met t'other day (who didn't know what it was)!
Old Duffer
However, any disappointment was quickly overcome when having had my regular service declared ineligible for the LS&GCM, I learned I could count three years of that towards my VR long service award and that nice lady who lives at the bottom of Constitution Hill did the rest.
I must say this latest bit of bling has a certain 'snob appeal' about it and it was much admired by an air force 'big cheese' I met t'other day (who didn't know what it was)!
Old Duffer
I also like the VRSM, Old Duffer, although I don't think it is as nice as the old Air Efficiency Award with its very attractive eagle suspension. Shame on the "big cheese" for not knowing what it was, it's been around for quite a few years now. I did know a chap in the AAC (TA) who had just missed out on qualifying for the Territorial Decoration, but had received the VRSM instead, He was quite miffed, and the last time I met him he was in correspondence with the MOD as he thought he could get both medals. Good luck with that one!
I just picked my medals up after getting the LS&GCM and clasp mounted, as a favour at Wellington Barracks - a cool £96 for full-sized and miniatures. At least I didn't have to get my tunics done these days...
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And then of course - as TTN probably knows - before the Territorial Decoration there used to be the Volunteer Officers' Decoration, with its rather unfortunate post-nominals.........
Paperwork for both LS&GCM & the Shader medal went in weeks ago but still not heard anything.
Nearly £100 to get 2 new medals mounted & miniatures? Best I get saving.
Nearly £100 to get 2 new medals mounted & miniatures? Best I get saving.
Apologies TTN - I have misled you with lax posting on this site.
I should have put VR(T) instead of just VR, so it's actually the Cadet Forces Medal I'm boasting about and rattling along swiftly towards a first clasp!
Old Duffer
I should have put VR(T) instead of just VR, so it's actually the Cadet Forces Medal I'm boasting about and rattling along swiftly towards a first clasp!
Old Duffer
O-D - thanks for that. The Cadet Forces Medal is also a nice one, but doesn't entitle you to any post nominal letters like the 'VR' which comes with the VRSM (not VD which teeteringhead alludes to )