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Old 14th Mar 2016, 15:12
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LW50,suggest you google A1-Skyraider in USAF service......or the Spad website....
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Old 15th Mar 2016, 01:12
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Lonewolf, the A-1 was widely used by the USN, USAF and VNAF in Vietnam. One USAF pilot earned the Medal of Honor whilst fly an A-1.

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megan (#39),
...Danny, the A-1 has massive air brakes. They consist of a large slab on each side of the fuselage hinged in line with the wing trailing edge, and also a slab beneath the fuselage. Whether they could be modulated I don't know, but if they were fully extended I'd imagine you could almost parachute down (tongue firmly in cheek). Trim change (nose up) with the belly panel may have been an issue, as it was on the T-28...
That, plus the natural nose-up effect of acceleration in a dive, might have limited the dive to (say) 60°, beyond which it would not be possible to trim the nose-up out.

So, it's looking even more like my A-31 (Vultee Vengeance) ! You learn something new every day.

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wanabee777 (#38),

Yes, the B-17s and B-24s of the "Mighty Eighth" suffered just as cruelly as our Bomber Command.

(As you probably guessed from my callsign, I did my Primary School at Carlstrom Field, Arcadia, '41, on the Arnold Scheme of the Army Air Corps).

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Old 15th Mar 2016, 11:55
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Skyraider, about to commit dive bombing:



Note that it was the first production Navy aircraft designed for both dive and torpedo bombing and was originally designated BT2D-1.
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Old 15th Mar 2016, 14:04
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Originally Posted by megan
Lonewolf, the A-1 was widely used by the USN, USAF and VNAF in Vietnam. One USAF pilot earned the Medal of Honor whilst fly an A-1.

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I stand corrected.


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Old 15th Mar 2016, 17:59
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Ref Danny's posts on losses. When the American Air Museum at Duxford re-opens, the entrance is via a very large glass wall, which carries a silhouette of every aircraft lost by the Americans in Europe. It is a very large wall, with very small silhouettes. Makes you think. I've just checked, and it opens this coming Saturday (19.3)

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Old 16th Mar 2016, 01:40
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Nothing to be embarrassed about Lonewolf. Never ever saw an A-1 do dive bombing in Vietnam, not to say it didn't though.
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Old 16th Mar 2016, 03:31
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A-1 Skyraider.

Low Observable,

Nice pic - what can't speak, can't lie. Would like to have tried the thing to see what it was like in the dive. And, with all that power (320 mph top whack), even if it was too clumsy to fight, at least it had the legs to run away !

It seems the Navy had some, do we know what the True Blue thought of them ?

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EDIT: Lazy devil ! - look it up in Wiki ! Did so, enormous amount of information, seems as it was mostly used in ground attack and shallow bombing, could carry a torpedo, but no mention of dive-bombing anywhere except in the list of types.

Ten hours strapped to the seat. Hard on the bum ! Now from Wiki:
...Most operational losses were due to the tremendous power of the AD. ADs that were "waved-off" during carrier recovery operations were prone to perform a fatal torque roll into the sea or the deck of the aircraft carrier if the pilot mistakenly gave the AD too much throttle. The torque of the engine was so great that it would cause the aircraft to rotate about the propeller and slam into the ground or the carrier...
Same thing in the Griffon Spits at low speed - and it caused the strange hopping side-step effect ("right close march !") if you poured the power on too early on take-off.......D.

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Old 16th Mar 2016, 23:12
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"...too clumsy to fight..."

No argument at all that the A-1 is not an ideal dogfighting platform, but these two pairs had quite respectable results against four MiG-17s:
VA-176 MiG Killers 9 Oct 66

(With an audio tape of the debrief.)
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 00:20
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The Royal Navy acquired 50 AD-4W early warning aircraft in 1951 through the Military Assistance Program. All Skyraider AEW.1s were operated by 849 Naval Air Squadron, which provided four-plane detachments for the British carriers. One flight aboard HMS Bulwark took part in the Suez Crisis in 1956. 778 Naval Air Squadron was responsible for the training of the Skyraider crews at RNAS Culdrose.

In 1960, the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 replaced the Skyraiders, using the APS-20 radar of the Douglas aircraft. The last British Skyraiders were retired in 1962.[29] In the late 1960s, the APS-20 radars from the Skyraiders were installed in Avro Shackleton AEW.2s of the Royal Air Force which were finally retired in 1991.

The British sold 14 aircraft to Sweden. France was another operator.

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About 5 years ago I used to see ... quite regularly ... a few OV 10s flying around my place in Mindanao, Philippines. I understand that they had been updated and were equipped with Paveway but were having horrendous losses due to accidents.

Rumour had it that they were going to be replaced with Super Tucanos.
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Old 18th May 2016, 17:56
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Those old OV-10 Broncos Sent To Fight ISIS Were Laser Rocket Slinging Man Hunters
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Old 18th May 2016, 20:40
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The story there isn't so much the airframe (though the Bronco done good! Woo Hoo!) but the APKWS and excellent air to ground coordination with the teams they were supporting.


APKWS would have been nice to have sooner ... but I'm glad it is finally operational.
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Old 18th May 2016, 22:58
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The French certainly had A-1s, with some based at Djibouti - and they would visit Khormaksar from time to time back in mid-60s.
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