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Boy Entrants 39th to 49th Entries

Old 1st Apr 2016, 16:36
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Originally Posted by ian16th View Post
It has been investigated and there is no direct relationship between Service numbers and Entry numbers.

Other than, over the years they both incremented!

The alpha character that was added to service numbers in 1965, was indeed because of the introduction of computers. The alpha character was a 'check character'.

If a service number was incorrectly entered into a computer, it would produce a different check character. When compared to the original check character it would indicate an error.
The system was not 100% fool proof, but pretty close.

The extra digit may well have been added to former apps numbers to create a constant field length. It makes sense.

I was demobbed Feb 65 so never had the alpha character added, but I did then enter the world of computers and quickly learn't what a check digit was.

By the way, most check digits are numeric, as in you bank account number. In civil life I never came across a check system that used alpha characters.

As for guys called Bond getting the last 3 of 007, there appears to have been several cases of clerks making the unsuspecting guy wait until the stamp getting to 006 and saying, 'Right its your turn now!'
Thanks Ian,
A lot has been explained on both counts.
It makes sense as I recall I was in Singapore when I received my"letter" and that was in '65. I still have the punched card with it on.
So we can't blame it on the Bossa Nova - it was computers all the time!!
Regards, Don.
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Old 1st Apr 2016, 16:43
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So many BONDs out there. I have a few here too -Brook Bond, Premium Bond, Basildon Bond and many more I am sure! :-)
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 17:06
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Son of deceased 46th boy entry cosford

Hello people, my father Mac brown was a 46th entry at cosford in air wireless, he sadly passed away in 2015, i am eager to find people who knew him especially out in Singapore and Malaysia to understand my fathers story?
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Old 27th Oct 2017, 15:29
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The listing of 1960 service numbers jars rather with the fact that as a Craft Apprentice in the 202nd Entry RAF Halton Jan 65 my service number was initially 1960323 on joining Jan 5th '65, shortly after amended to have the letter " O " added as a prefix, shortly amended to have the letter "P " as a prefix as I presume the " O " could be mistaken for a zero.
I believe that the 201st entry started with 1960001 as without any fiddling or sleight of hand Apprentice Bond J of the 201st had the service number 1660007 to plague him for what I gather was a fairly short service career and who can blame him!
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Old 27th Oct 2017, 16:21
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Prefix Letters

I remember the whole entry being assembled in a large room in St Athan and issued with our prefix letters. I can't remember if it was done alphabetically.

I do know that I became S1949693 (Airframes, 50th Entry, St Athan)
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I just know you will be transfixed and amazed as to how they got the last checksum letter on your service number, someone posted this a while back, sorry can`t remember who. Works on BE service numbers, not sure of others.


Multiply the first digit by 8
second by 17
third by 4
forth by 16
fifth by 2
sixth by 13
seventh by 5
Add these up to produce answer A

Divide A by 23

Chop all the decimal places then multiply by 23. The result is answer B.

Subtract B from A to produce answer C which is a letter of the alphabet where Zero = A, 1 = B, 2 = C etc. But omit "O" and "I" to avoid confusion with "0" and "1".

A slight change to the algorithm fixes it. Multiply the last digit by 1 (not 5), discard "I" and "O" in the alphabet and start at zero when counting through.

I was 48th entry St Athan, and it gives me the correct check letter. 1948...N
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 19:21
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Originally Posted by sandozer View Post
I just know you will be transfixed and amazed as to how they got the last checksum letter on your service number, someone posted this a while back, sorry can`t remember who. Works on BE service numbers, not sure of others.


Multiply the first digit by 8
second by 17
third by 4
forth by 16
fifth by 2
sixth by 13
seventh by 5
Add these up to produce answer A

Divide A by 23

Chop all the decimal places then multiply by 23. The result is answer B.

Subtract B from A to produce answer C which is a letter of the alphabet where Zero = A, 1 = B, 2 = C etc. But omit "O" and "I" to avoid confusion with "0" and "1".

A slight change to the algorithm fixes it. Multiply the last digit by 1 (not 5), discard "I" and "O" in the alphabet and start at zero when counting through.

I was 48th entry St Athan, and it gives me the correct check letter. 1948...N
Really? Hmm - I too was 48th Entry at Saints (Airframe) & am J1948...
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Old 31st Oct 2017, 08:00
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45th Entry, 1946003, St. Athan, Airframe Mechanic (or was it "Fitter", I can never remember). I became A1946003 shortly after arriving at my first posting, RAF Leeming. I'm still in touch with one guy I met at Saints, in fact my wife and I spent a few days with him and his wife at their home in Scotland just last week. How many other former Boys out there have kept in touch with people they met at ITS.
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Computer geeks never do anything by halves do they!
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Hi DonExAir, 48th entry, A flt , 3 sqdn, Supplier General at #3 Sof TT at RAF Hereford, Jan 63 - Jul64 and my old service number is E1948643

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Boy entrant commemorative medal.

I have been asked by a company who mounts medals if I can source details of the ribbon used in a comemorative medal purchased by former Boy entrants. Apparently it was crimson coloured or very similar.

This is not a medal that will be worn alongside issued medals but is to be inserted into a wooden frame and wall mounted.

Any help or pictures would be much appreciated.
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Old 14th Sep 2020, 12:54
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Originally Posted by DonExAir View Post
If you are an ex-boy entrant in the above entry band I would love to hear from you, where you trained, what trade you followed and what Flt., Sqn. and Wing you were in.
I am trying to compile who we all were back then in the 1960s.

Best regards,

Don, ex 43rd Entry, D Flight, 2 Sqn. 1 Wing, RAF St Athan.
4259.
My father joined the 41st at Cosford in 1960.
He then was at Benson. His name Ian Allison aka Ally. Would love to hear from anyone who has any stories about him.
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Don, like me, did you spend all your down time at Changi water skiing?
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