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LRS-B... The B-21

Old 20th Mar 2024, 13:51
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Salute!

Gotta tellya, Wolf, that the F-35 is really loud, and having lived in a home near Hill (maybe 1.5 nm) when the Thuds were still there, the F-35 would be louder. Now, living maybe 2-3 nm from the Eglin rwy, you can tell the difference between the F-35 and all the others, even the F-22 that has two engines.

I do not think the mountains at Hill make much difference if you are west of the Wasatch range.

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Old 20th Mar 2024, 21:09
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Originally Posted by gums
Salute!

Gotta tellya, Wolf, that the F-35 is really loud, and having lived in a home near Hill (maybe 1.5 nm) when the Thuds were still there, the F-35 would be louder. Now, living maybe 2-3 nm from the Eglin rwy, you can tell the difference between the F-35 and all the others, even the F-22 that has two engines.

I do not think the mountains at Hill make much difference if you are west of the Wasatch range.

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The civvies around NAS LeMoore (A-7 base and then F-18 base in California) were up in arms about the F-35 showing up.
Of course the envirotwits tried to block it. Their complaint? Noise level.
(And TBH, I kind of see their point on that one. Freaking loud, the F-35 is).
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Old 8th Apr 2024, 22:03
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Some good defense procurement news for once! The FY25 & FY26 forecasted procurement costs for the new B-21 Raider stealth bomber is coming in $1.9 billion under budget from what was expected in last year's budget.

Those funds could be reinvested into the program to buy more aircraft, or allocated to other priority programs like Sentinel ICBMs, which forms another leg of the nuclear triad.


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Old 8th Apr 2024, 23:37
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Saw one of the first Aussie F-35s to arrive at Avalon airshow a few years back.
Had seen the F-16 at Farnborough previously - and was surprised at how loud the sound of freedom was from that little jet.
But the F-35 - something else again!
Not that I was even remotely complaining...
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Old 9th Apr 2024, 00:40
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Little confused. Govt claims the program is cheaper than expected by $2B yet NG states:

After a review in the fourth quarter, “we now believe it is probable each of the first five LRIP (Low Rate Initial Production) lots will be performed at a loss,” Kathy Warden, Northrop’s president, chairman, and CEO said in a results call with reporters.
(To the tune of $1.56 B)

I can see one being true, but not both.
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Old 9th Apr 2024, 06:17
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No contradiction. They have a negotiated price for each lot and have previously stated that they expect to lose money on the first few lots as they gain experience on the line, with the production cost becoming lower and moving into profit later down the line. Same as has happened on other aircraft programmes.

The article is reporting that the AF are seeing the reported cost savings being identified and introduced earlier than they expected and so the price coming down faster than expected.

If that leads to additional orders then bulk buying of parts can lead to a beneficial further lowering of costs - as opposed to the opposite “death spiral” when problems in production lead to higher to higher prices and order cuts, which leads to higher prices etc etc…
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Old 9th Apr 2024, 18:49
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Originally Posted by tartare
Saw one of the first Aussie F-35s to arrive at Avalon airshow a few years back.
Had seen the F-16 at Farnborough previously - and was surprised at how loud the sound of freedom was from that little jet.
But the F-35 - something else again!
Not that I was even remotely complaining...
By far the loudest single engine jet I can remember.
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Old 10th Apr 2024, 08:22
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By far the loudest single engine jet I can remember.
Louder than the Yak141 at the 1992 Farnborough Air Show, which set off dozens of car alarms as it hovered!
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Old 18th Apr 2024, 14:02
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100 airframes and maybe something new bubbling in the future?

Interesting, they still sticking with 100 airframes but also having thoughts of something new,

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/ai...uEhXkIKSyTNKUP

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Old 17th May 2024, 13:24
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"The program is on track to procure... and continues to successfully execute within cost, shcedule and performance goals."
Sure it is. Let's see what the GAO has to say in three to five years.
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New Raider pictures just dropped.






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Old 23rd May 2024, 02:33
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Looks like a great big guppy.
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Old 23rd May 2024, 13:51
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I finally figured out what the B-21 with that air data probe reminds me of--a narwhal!

I know air data probes like that are commonly used on test flights to calibrate sensors and such, but don't recall it being used on the B-2. Or if it was used, pics are not coming up on Google. And it appears the trailing sensor cable is streamed in ORAC's second picture in #272--that's gotta be rough on whatever's at the end of the cable.

My limited flight test experience is small-time helicopter mods from 15 years ago--times have changed!
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Interesting article on the B-21 windows, but the images are resized to make the B-21 and B-20 comparable with just the text telling you to look at the size of the ejection seat hatches to show how much smaller it is., reportedly comparable to an F-15.

Pretty sure the shot with the B-1 and B-20 is a composite - but it does show how small it is, at least from the side.

https://www.twz.com/air/b-21-b-2-com...ows-really-are

B-21, B-2 Comparison Image Shows Just How Weird The Raider’s Windows Really Are

The B-21 Raider evolved from the B-2, but it’s very much its own design, with its limited cockpit visibility being a standout trait.



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Old 29th May 2024, 17:25
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The windows remind me of PPrune veterans commenting on the Victor: "Like trying to land your house while peering out of the letterbox".
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