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Makes you wonder why we haven't done the same to our "stealth" Tutors?
What an ugly looking thing that T-6C is.....
What with that, the Grob Prefect and the Phenom, Arse-scent seem to have captured the market for ugly looking aeroplanes.
What with that, the Grob Prefect and the Phenom, Arse-scent seem to have captured the market for ugly looking aeroplanes.
And yes, they are totally pug-ugly.
What an ugly looking thing that T-6C is.....
What with that, the Grob Prefect and the Phenom, Arse-scent seem to have captured the market for ugly looking aeroplanes.
What with that, the Grob Prefect and the Phenom, Arse-scent seem to have captured the market for ugly looking aeroplanes.
LJ.
Whilst I agree the PC21 is better looking than the Texan it can't really be described as a sister. Distant cousin maybe?
Looks aside, the PC21 is far more aeroplane than you need. T6 is actually perfect for the job and well proven. But ugly.
As for helicopters, they're all ugly.
BV
Whilst I agree the PC21 is better looking than the Texan it can't really be described as a sister. Distant cousin maybe?
Looks aside, the PC21 is far more aeroplane than you need. T6 is actually perfect for the job and well proven. But ugly.
As for helicopters, they're all ugly.
BV
LJ.
Whilst I agree the PC21 is better looking than the Texan it can't really be described as a sister. Distant cousin maybe?
Looks aside, the PC21 is far more aeroplane than you need. T6 is actually perfect for the job and well proven. But ugly.
As for helicopters, they're all ugly.
BV
Whilst I agree the PC21 is better looking than the Texan it can't really be described as a sister. Distant cousin maybe?
Looks aside, the PC21 is far more aeroplane than you need. T6 is actually perfect for the job and well proven. But ugly.
As for helicopters, they're all ugly.
BV
I will be attending RIAT friday and sat on professional level thus all of Ascent's assets will be there even Juno and Jupiter
Cheers
Chopper.
Anything with a spinning roof is inherently wrong.
Remember in simple terms an aeroplane should land and then stop. Not stop and then land.
I should point out that right now I am the wrong side of a well developed game of Tink and couldn't even name my first born child.
BV
Anything with a spinning roof is inherently wrong.
Remember in simple terms an aeroplane should land and then stop. Not stop and then land.
I should point out that right now I am the wrong side of a well developed game of Tink and couldn't even name my first born child.
BV
perhaps they've had to make them bigger to allow the Welsh translation to be printed on them
or simply 'allan'
Or, in the vein of 'poppity-ping' for a microwave, perhaps 'bangitty seat yeah'
RAF weighs training balance as new fleet nears use
Flight Global article RAF weighs training balance as new fleet nears use
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Given the complexity of current & future single-seat FJ operations, a realist target?
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Speaking to FlightGlobal at the Royal International Air Tattoo on 14 July, Air Marshal Sean Rey*nolds, deputy commander capability and air member for personnel and capability, said the RAF was assessing its training needs and delivery methods for the incoming fleet. His target is to reduce the time taken to prepare a new fighter pilot from five to 3.5 years, and cut its multi-engine crew training period by 30%, from two years currently.
Given the complexity of current & future single-seat FJ operations, a realist target?
I am fairly sure nobody flew the JP as their very first experience in the period of late-80's through to the end of the JP in 1993.
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QUOTE=Roland Pulfrew;9850998]If you discount my first ever solo, which was in a Kirby Cadet Mk III, then my first ever powered solo was on the JP.[/QUOTE]
My first-hand knowledge of the flying training sytem spans the period 1987-1993. I am clearly mistaken, but I had recalled that without apprx 30 hours powered flying (eg a Flying Scholarship) pilot trainees went firstly to EFTS on the Chipmunk. I think this scheme was preceded by one that involved a Flying Selection Sqn, again on the Chipmunk, but I don't know when this changed over. It does seem puzzling that, if these schools existed as I recall, that candidates with no flying experince were going straight to BFTS.
I do recall that, having done a Flying Scholarship, I felt that getting experience on the UAS was vital as I would miss out on EFTS. Wasn't there also a long/short option at BFTS? I can't recall how that was decided.
My first-hand knowledge of the flying training sytem spans the period 1987-1993. I am clearly mistaken, but I had recalled that without apprx 30 hours powered flying (eg a Flying Scholarship) pilot trainees went firstly to EFTS on the Chipmunk. I think this scheme was preceded by one that involved a Flying Selection Sqn, again on the Chipmunk, but I don't know when this changed over. It does seem puzzling that, if these schools existed as I recall, that candidates with no flying experince were going straight to BFTS.
I do recall that, having done a Flying Scholarship, I felt that getting experience on the UAS was vital as I would miss out on EFTS. Wasn't there also a long/short option at BFTS? I can't recall how that was decided.
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In 1980, when I started RAF flying training, my first experience of flying was 14 hours on the Chipmunk followed by the JP5A at Cranwell. As students did not go solo on the Chipmunk at that time, my first solo experience was at the controls of a JP5A. Happy days indeed.
Indeed, that sounds about right. By my recollection, ex-UAS students went straight to Cranwell to fly the JP5.
The rest of us went via Flying Selection Squadron at Swinderby for 14 hours in the Chippie, no solo, then onto Linton & Fenton for the JP3. Fast Jet guys then went JP5 at those stations.
My first-hand knowledge of the flying training system spans the period 1987-1993. I am clearly mistaken, but I had recalled that without apprx 30 hours powered flying (eg a Flying Scholarship) pilot trainees went firstly to EFTS on the Chipmunk. I think this scheme was preceded by one that involved a Flying Selection Sqn, again on the Chipmunk, but I don't know when this changed over. It does seem puzzling that, if these schools existed as I recall, that candidates with no flying experience were going straight to BFTS.
and were only assessed as suitable to move on to BFTS or not; one or 2 from my course were assessed as not and went on to other branches. For the rest it was off to one of the 3 Basic FTSs (CF, Cwl or L-o-O) for the JP and our first solos.For those worried about EFT with retractable undercarriages, well that's what runway caravans and flare pistols are for. Do we still have runway caravans and flare pistols?
