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Why the raf can’t deliver the punch cameron wants in syria

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Old 3rd Dec 2015, 18:11
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Well done those with the will to correct the carp from disaffected fish-heads and Trolls.
I think their problem beef is with the reality of funding a real Naval aviation force allied to the cost of the boats, oops sorry, Ships.
I give credit too Sharkey for his Service record on Ops. However, he has chosen to debase himself ever since.

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Old 3rd Dec 2015, 18:26
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Cdr Ward's exploits in 1982 were outstanding.

He then became something of a bearded bull$hitter....

But, rather regrettably, his recent writings do him absolutely no favours at all. However, I am prepared to accept that this is simply the result of anno domini, the Caribbean sun and and perhaps rather too much rum for one of his years.

So I guess I just feel pity for the old salt, rather than exhibit the same sentiments towards him as he seems to feel towards the RAF.....
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Very magnanimous, BEags.

For which one of his years did he have too much rum?
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Old 3rd Dec 2015, 20:42
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I suppose we must show discretion, but a little rum now and then can be a good thing.
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I think the thrust and purpose of this latest rant from Ward has been missed. The entire piece is designed to discredit the capabilities of Royal Air Force aircraft, leading to the statement

deliberately send ill-equipped aircrew “into harm’s way”
and using a non-existent event to back-up his claims,

a near-mutiny by Tornado squadron aircrew in Kuwait
The aim being to discredit the Royal Air Force leadership thus,

This state of affairs says little for those in the RAF who plan British air power and provide the Government with such dreadfully partisan advice.
and this is the basis for the true purpose of his publication,

In the light of all the above (and the Tornado’s dreadful track record) is it not extraordinary that the Government’s Ministry of Defence has seen fit to appoint two Tornado officers to take charge of the new Royal Navy carriers and their air groups?
The whole piece is all about Ward's fury that two RAF officers have a role in the future of his precious Royal Navy.
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"Er....who is there left minding the store back home when the next Bear cruises up and down the North Sea ?"

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Old 3rd Dec 2015, 22:35
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It's only six Typhoons in Cyprus. Plenty more back home.
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Originally Posted by Danny42C
"Er....who is there left minding the store back home when the next Bear cruises up and down the North Sea ?"

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The SHAR fleet.
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Old 4th Dec 2015, 11:03
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The SHAR fleet certainly should be! SHAR 2 with L16 and AIM-120 was a very good carrier-based interceptor, which was killed off far too early.

And NOT by anyone in the RAF, I hasten to add - it was the boat peoples' own goal.
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Old 4th Dec 2015, 17:45
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The @rse has been utterly kicked out of this thread. He's a guy of a certain age....let it go man. This is the internet, its not a duelling ground to the death..everyone agrees to disagree about ...I've forgotten already...RAF virtue or something.
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Old 4th Dec 2015, 18:57
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Perhaps the aged one will add tonight's picture to one of his blogs?

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Old 4th Dec 2015, 19:21
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I stopped reading this Sharky-Thread ages ago. Because it's tragic.

But that Typhoon picture up-thread shows what's gone wrong with the RAF. Too many lights everywhere, which the D'aesh flak-gunners will see from miles away.

Regards, Mr Ward (RN retd) ... you, like me, have had your day.
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Old 4th Dec 2015, 21:41
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MPN11, I suspect that the Typhoon drivers may have worked out the advantages of covert lighting by now.
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HS, the "man of a certain age" picks a fight, nothing to disagree about. He allows no means of rebuttal to his disinformation, nothing to agree about. But I admire your blind loyalty.
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Old 5th Dec 2015, 00:17
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Originally Posted by Hangarshuffle
He's a guy of a certain age....let it go man.
Perhaps, Cmdr Ward should also take your advice, unfortunately, he seems distinctly unable to '...let it go man.'

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Old 5th Dec 2015, 10:55
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MPN11, I suspect that the Typhoon drivers may have worked out the advantages of covert lighting by now.
I think there was a detectable amount of sarcasm in MPN's post both with the lights and his words regarding D'aesh flak-gunners.

Well, it made me smile.

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Old 5th Dec 2015, 12:05
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It seems MPN11 has the same Defence Brief that Sharkey uses.

Hilarious!
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Old 5th Dec 2015, 12:49
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Defence Secretary Michael Fallon, who is visiting the British base for the Syria mission in Cyprus, said: "Last night saw the full force of the RAF."
Four Tornado jets launched the first UK air strikes in Syria on Thursday.


So 4 jets is the full force, better than nothing i suppose.
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Old 5th Dec 2015, 12:50
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I notice in this image, and the one posted by, JTO, that the Typhoon is carrying Paveway IV. So I guess full clearance has now been achieved, or is this as the result of a UOR? Obviously, if the answer is not for public consumption, I'll understand if no one replies...



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Old 5th Dec 2015, 12:58
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It's been cleared for routine squadron use for a while. A better daylight pic is back at post 128.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/f...mouth-27112014
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