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ricardian 28th Nov 2015 14:22

Why the raf can’t deliver the punch cameron wants in syria
 

WHY THE RAF CAN’T DELIVER THE PUNCH CAMERON WANTS IN SYRIA
Posted on November 27, 2015
Contributed by Sharkey Ward
Falklands War air ace and Harrier squadron commander
Read the report here

MadsDad 28th Nov 2015 14:29

Have I got time to pop out for some popcorn?

Kitbag 28th Nov 2015 14:37

This one is just as good :ok:

Sadly one is not able to post comments on the website. Probably a little scared his views would be revealed for the tripe they are.

Pontius Navigator 28th Nov 2015 14:39

Good read, well up there with Dale Brown, or is that doing Dale a disservice?

Melchett01 28th Nov 2015 15:00

I needed a laugh, thanks for posting. I could question his logic line by line, but I think it sufficient merely to note that the RAF's contribution is numerically small but still greater than the Navy's.

One question did spring to mind reading his article though. He labels himself, or is labelled in the article an 'air ace'. I always thought the criteria for 'Ace' status was 5 kills and yet his own Wiki entry with his citation only notes 3; has the criteria been watered down or is he just a playing Walt?

Rhino power 28th Nov 2015 15:04

Mr.Ward's almost pathological hatred of the RAF is quite disturbing, it really must be eating away at him constantly, to enable him to come up with such diatribes... :uhoh:

-RP

Exnomad 28th Nov 2015 15:10

Perhaps we shoukd refurbish that Vulcan and the ones in museums
Pity that is not possible.

Shadwell the old 28th Nov 2015 15:21

Lord Haw Haw lives

Genstabler 28th Nov 2015 15:22

I would like to hazard the opinion that he has a point. Several in fact.

Kitbag 28th Nov 2015 15:35

Yes of course he has a point. But these are skewed due to his, as RP says, pathological hatred of the RAF. I believe he is right when he says the RN should have a nuclear-powered carrier force, that the carriers should be equipped with catapults and arrestor gear, that the Air Wing should include strike, fixed wing AEW, COD, AAR capability etc. He ignores the fact that all this was ditched by the Naval Staff.

I also think he still thinks of the world in terms of Mk1 Golf GTi's, Concorde, Kerry Packers cricket circus and women with big hair, shoulder pads and leg warmers.

Genstabler 28th Nov 2015 15:40


I also think he still thinks of the world in terms of Mk1 Golf GTi's, Concorde, Kerry Packers cricket circus and women with big hair, shoulder pads and leg warmers.
What's wrong with that then?

Pontius Navigator 28th Nov 2015 15:40


Originally Posted by Kitbag (Post 9194503)
I also think he still thinks of the world in terms of Mk1 Golf GTi's, Concorde, Kerry Packers cricket circus and women with . . . leg warmers.

Hairy legs as in the men-only Navy?

Kitbag 28th Nov 2015 15:50

Sharkey relaxing as he remembers the good old days
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...CnnPF8F0c-4CHk

air pig 28th Nov 2015 16:08

Was ex Commnader Ward an RAF reject and has held a grudge ever since?

just another jocky 28th Nov 2015 16:17

Bending the truth a little to serve your own argument I can stomach but outright lies.....dishonourable at best.

Shame on ex-Lt Cdr Ward.....again!

barnstormer1968 28th Nov 2015 16:19

What a lot of pre amble purely in order to be able to say the last two sentences.

Just This Once... 28th Nov 2015 16:25


Originally Posted by just another jocky (Post 9194546)
but outright lies.....dishonourable at best.

I guess we have all got used to it, but yes it is rather dishonourable to behave in the way he does. It must be incredibly embarrassing for his family.

Stanwell 28th Nov 2015 16:37

... and the best person he can get to publish his diatribe is a fiction writer and war-gamer. :hmm:

Phil_R 28th Nov 2015 16:40

Civvy perspective:

I assume both Tornado and Typhoon have some degree of EW capability that isn't entirely public.

Pablo Mason's book mentions some degree of apprehension during Gulf 1 at the technique required to use JP-233. Hadn't realised the level of unhappiness was quite as severe as Ward makes out.

Understood it was widely felt that Harrier was pretty crap at CAS too due to lack of guns.

Fair to call current Tornado obsolete?

P

Kitbag 28th Nov 2015 16:42

Wonder if it grates that he has the Air Force Cross?


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