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Up until they capture you, you're a (valuable) enemy combatant capable of returning on missions swinging in your harness. One of the crew escaped so there's no guarantee that they were going to capture the Russians.It's war!
CC.
Define how you know they are able to even walk or are even armed when hanging on a chute 500 ft in the air, you appear already to be Judge, Jury and Executioner.
Are you even aware of the injuries that can be caused by a simple ejection, let alone those from having your aircraft blown out from under you?
you obviously are showing your naivety by assuming that it is like WW2 film where a pilot can simply bale out, have tea and tiffen and be back in the air the same day, an ejection and the injuries incured are in a total different ballpark.
Where would you draw the line, shoot them on a parachute in the air, lying wounded on the ground? escaping on foot, as a prisoner of war?
I would suggest you read up on ejection injuries before making such rash comments...
As for Courtney.... show us your leg dear
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CC.
Define how you know they are able to even walk or are even armed when hanging on a chute 500 ft in the air, you appear already to be Judge, Jury and Executioner.
Are you even aware of the injuries that can be caused by a simple ejection, let alone those from having your aircraft blown out from under you?
you obviously are showing your naivety by assuming that it is like WW2 film where a pilot can simply bale out, have tea and tiffen and be back in the air the same day, an ejection and the injuries incured are in a total different ballpark.
Where would you draw the line, shoot them on a parachute in the air, lying wounded on the ground? escaping on foot, as a prisoner of war?
I would suggest you read up on ejection injuries before making such rash comments...
As for Courtney.... show us your leg dear
Mensa member?
One Russian escaped. His friend couldn't because ???
Define how you know they are able to even walk or are even armed when hanging on a chute 500 ft in the air, you appear already to be Judge, Jury and Executioner.
Are you even aware of the injuries that can be caused by a simple ejection, let alone those from having your aircraft blown out from under you?
you obviously are showing your naivety by assuming that it is like WW2 film where a pilot can simply bale out, have tea and tiffen and be back in the air the same day, an ejection and the injuries incured are in a total different ballpark.
Where would you draw the line, shoot them on a parachute in the air, lying wounded on the ground? escaping on foot, as a prisoner of war?
I would suggest you read up on ejection injuries before making such rash comments...
As for Courtney.... show us your leg dear
Mensa member?
One Russian escaped. His friend couldn't because ???
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Because it is against the law. You have the right to self defence but you do not have the right to carry a pistol.
Not rocket science.
Civil Civilian, after that crap about the female spelling you may want to think about losing the 'Civil' bit.
As for your assertion that dropping bombs on people who only have rifles is somehow, what word shall I use, unfair, I suggest you are not very familiar with the application of Air Power.
Or indeed the history of armed Warfare.
If self defence is allowed, then why can I not carry a pistol in the UK?
Not rocket science.
Civil Civilian, after that crap about the female spelling you may want to think about losing the 'Civil' bit.
As for your assertion that dropping bombs on people who only have rifles is somehow, what word shall I use, unfair, I suggest you are not very familiar with the application of Air Power.
Or indeed the history of armed Warfare.
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Nah, I've stripped him down to his undies. If he's a woman he's hiding it well!
Mach 2, I see your forty seconds and raise you 20, but as you say that doesn't fit the plot. So I'm pretty sure this was not in defence of Turkish airspace.
Next question, of course, is if Russia were to act (as I mentioned, unlikely), how would NATO treat an Article 5 request from Turkey when opinion is that they acted illegally? But then, Article 5 doesn't actually state that other nations have to act, does it?
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CC, you are cherry picking and ignoring posts you can't answer. If you want to leave the room feel free or someone may show you the door.
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BBC reporting Pilot claims Turkey never issued warnings
'Turkey gave no warning' - downed Russian pilot - BBC News
'Turkey gave no warning' - downed Russian pilot - BBC News
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Originally Posted by Tash
Nah, I've stripped him down to his undies. If he's a woman he's hiding it well!
Courtney
Oh, God, yes. I am afraid that's actually true. But it was for a reason. Ah, happy days!
Nah, I've stripped him down to his undies. If he's a woman he's hiding it well!
Courtney
Oh, God, yes. I am afraid that's actually true. But it was for a reason. Ah, happy days!
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Uncivil, that. A personal request here: please either raise your game or play in another sand box. FWIW, the mods prefer that we play the ball and not the man.
He got shot under the chute.
Note for whom this forum exists: it's in the description.
While no few of us are retired and former, that's more or less whose sandbox you are in.
One Russian escaped. His friend couldn't because
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One Russian escaped. His friend couldn't because ???
One Russian escaped. His friend couldn't because ???
There's a lot he's not aware of.
I've never stripped Courtney down (he's too short for my tastes). But I think I saw him ride a horse into Bentley Priory mess. Then again that could be failing memory.
I've never stripped Courtney down (he's too short for my tastes). But I think I saw him ride a horse into Bentley Priory mess. Then again that could be failing memory.
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A thought.
What language were the Turkish Air Defence Centre speaking?
What language were the Russian's understanding?
What frequency was being used (243.0?).
I recall a 4 ship of XI Sqn F3's going to Akronelli from Leeming and the French launching their QRA against them. Even the Buchan MC (a brilliant female whose name I cannot recall) who had direct comms with the French, and had major difficulty co-ordinating the flight.
What language were the Turkish Air Defence Centre speaking?
What language were the Russian's understanding?
What frequency was being used (243.0?).
I recall a 4 ship of XI Sqn F3's going to Akronelli from Leeming and the French launching their QRA against them. Even the Buchan MC (a brilliant female whose name I cannot recall) who had direct comms with the French, and had major difficulty co-ordinating the flight.
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Surely its fairly obvious by now that "Civil Civilian" and mr Eclectic" are civilians who have never served in the Air Force, probably never flown- certainly not combat aircraft and are simply trolls. Surely there's a way of banning them? They just waste time.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
TCC as a long time member of this forum has a history of jumping in with both feet as a browse of his history will show.
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4175...t-dispute.html
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4175...t-dispute.html
Civi Trolls
Unfortunately, Civi 'trolls' have not the faintest clue of the stress and the instant decisions required by a military fast jet fighter pilot, least of all compliance with law and rules of engagement. These are oft-times vague and very confusing. If you get them wrong, you carry the can. Consider your own souls, do not lecture us who have faced and those who still face these dilemmas.
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probably never flown
Personally at OASC they advised me that I was, and here I quote, "To good looking, charming, fit, intelligent and handsome" to be a Fast Jet pilot.
Yes they did use 'good looking' and 'handsome' in the same sentence.
I replied "What, even a Harrier God?" as the Sun came out and created a halo effect around my golden locks.
"Yes" they replied, "Stay a Scopie, we need good scope dopes."
That was me sorted