Paris Attacked!
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There are people who choose to live outside the company of civilised people - show those that do no compassion, they will show none to you, as was clearly demonstrated in Paris last night.
Is that clear enough for some?
Is that clear enough for some?
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
News suggests terrorists were trained and from outside Franch. They may have been French but had to cross a border to get to Paris. Open borders also facilitate easy availability if weapons.
In contrast, in July, out of Hull, our car was searched in a shed, then in the queue armed plain clothes police patrolled the park. At Rotterdam we were searched by Dutch police. That border was secure.
In contrast, in July, out of Hull, our car was searched in a shed, then in the queue armed plain clothes police patrolled the park. At Rotterdam we were searched by Dutch police. That border was secure.
Border controls are one issue and this latest murdering spree will surely lead to the UK etc beefing up border security regardless of what the Libtards in Brussels demand, but the other elephant in the room, and one rarely mentioned by any Politician is the sticky subject of Muslim enclaves across the Euro Zone and especially France, where Muslims live parallel to society and which allows them to segregate themselves in areas where non Muslims are not welcome and where lawlessness prevails because the Police, ambulance crews etc will not enter for fear of attack. Multiculturalists and the PC brigade can deny they exist till the cows come home, and they will because their existence proves their policies are not working.
Surely now is the time to stop pussy footing around this issue, and to get into these areas and wrestle back control as it is apparent they are breeding grounds for Islamic radicalism.
My thoughts and prayers are with those that lost their lives in these attacks RIP.
Surely now is the time to stop pussy footing around this issue, and to get into these areas and wrestle back control as it is apparent they are breeding grounds for Islamic radicalism.
My thoughts and prayers are with those that lost their lives in these attacks RIP.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
ITV News: Suspected attacker passed through Greece last month
The owner of a Syrian passport found near the body of one of the Paris gunmen had passed through the Greek island of Leros last month, the Greek deputy police minister has said.
The owner of a Syrian passport found near the body of one of the Paris gunmen had passed through the Greek island of Leros last month, the Greek deputy police minister has said.
TGV
Train was a prototype TGV that derailed. 7 dead and 7 injured. Coach fell off bridge into river. Too high a speed is being quoted by local officials. Unlikely to be connected to the Paris tragedy.
Last edited by Gericault; 14th Nov 2015 at 16:58. Reason: More deaths I'm afraid.
Sky News now reporting one of the attackers had passed through Greece as a supposed refugee.
Wasn't this tactic mentioned ? Didn't the 'authorities' pay any head
Wasn't this tactic mentioned ? Didn't the 'authorities' pay any head
Unfortunately it was dismissed all too quickly and those that dared suggest it were often accused of racist hyperbole. Whilst a terrible, unspeakable and cowardly act against unarmed civilians, it shouldn't I fear, be seen as a surprise. There are always those ready to exploit others' suffering to their own ends.
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Precedent already set with Madrid bombings in 2004.
Net result being Spain pulled out of Iraq, I suspect the French are made of sterner stuff but this will undoubtedly shift the political spectrum towards the right.
Net result being Spain pulled out of Iraq, I suspect the French are made of sterner stuff but this will undoubtedly shift the political spectrum towards the right.
What will those who supported the traitor, Edward Snowden, who tipped off the bad guys about surveillance techniques say now?
Perhaps the so called 'snoopers' charter' isn't such a bad idea after all.
Perhaps the so called 'snoopers' charter' isn't such a bad idea after all.
^^
Yes, I wonder if Snowden feels guilty. He is no doubt in total denial as to the link between his actions and this, as I expect are his Guardian helpers Rushbridge & Greenwald.
Yes, I wonder if Snowden feels guilty. He is no doubt in total denial as to the link between his actions and this, as I expect are his Guardian helpers Rushbridge & Greenwald.
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Paris terrorist was a Syrian refugee, says Greece government official | World | News | Daily Express
Looks like one of the terrorists was a Syrian refugee. Close the damned borders now has my vote.
Looks like one of the terrorists was a Syrian refugee. Close the damned borders now has my vote.
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I think the whole "closed/secure border" argument is a complete nonsense. The UK is not part of Schengen so we have 'secure' borders apparently, yet we still have thousands of illegal immigrants who have crossed these secure borders! My understanding is the French tightened border control to prevent any accomplices escaping?
Of greater interest is that following the Russian Airliner tragedy, Beirut suicide bombings and now this maybe a consensus could be built to counter the IS threat. Some indiction on social media that the Russians, at G20, will suggest that we could put differences aside and agree a common policy to counter IS. Not sure the West is at the stage of accepting that Assad might have to stay at least short term and certainly can't see NATO boots on the ground yet. I suspect we will remain reactive and keep our fingers crossed!
Of greater interest is that following the Russian Airliner tragedy, Beirut suicide bombings and now this maybe a consensus could be built to counter the IS threat. Some indiction on social media that the Russians, at G20, will suggest that we could put differences aside and agree a common policy to counter IS. Not sure the West is at the stage of accepting that Assad might have to stay at least short term and certainly can't see NATO boots on the ground yet. I suspect we will remain reactive and keep our fingers crossed!
PN - yet a month ago whilst checked into UK (at Hull), going back to France through Ouistreham, the French authorities did not even get out of bed (it was 0700, and we all drove straight from the ferry to the motorway - no checks other than on arrival at Portsmouth the night before
CC, what I find bizarre is that following the CJD outbreak a few years ago, appropriate measure were put in place and the government know knows where every single bl@@dy cow is in this country, is there nothing we can learn and adapt from this process to ensure we are aware of where these people are?
Heartfelt condolences to all those affected by the horror in France, only been lucky to visit there a couple of times but enjoyed both visits.
Heartfelt condolences to all those affected by the horror in France, only been lucky to visit there a couple of times but enjoyed both visits.
linedog and lj.....
when will we stop sleepwalking into catastrophe? The bleeding heart liberals have had too much influence.......the policy makers have to wake up.....now!!!
My prayers are with the people of Paris tonight.
MD
when will we stop sleepwalking into catastrophe? The bleeding heart liberals have had too much influence.......the policy makers have to wake up.....now!!!
My prayers are with the people of Paris tonight.
MD
Paris is my favourite European city and we spend some weeks every year exploring and enjoying France, so my heart goes out to those affected by these multiple outrages. Having written such, shouldn't this thread be transferred to Jet Blast to join its brethren?
Not sure the West is at the stage of accepting that Assad might have to stay at least short term
I think we are a step closer now to accepting that supporting Assad and Iran is the best solution to the crisis in Syria and Iraq.
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Brokenlink I think a system to monitor everyone in the country was mooted a few years back; cost and civil liberties put paid to it.
I think we need to decide if IS are the main threat to our country and stand shoulder to shoulder with whoever agrees. Maybe for once we will get clear political direction that the chiefs can translate into strategic direction that will be give the guys on the ground a chance. Sadly I'm not holding my breath!
I think we need to decide if IS are the main threat to our country and stand shoulder to shoulder with whoever agrees. Maybe for once we will get clear political direction that the chiefs can translate into strategic direction that will be give the guys on the ground a chance. Sadly I'm not holding my breath!