Hospital moves RAF man over ‘offensive’ uniform
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I'm offended that someone in this Country could be offended by a military uniform! So deal with that! 
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One lunchtime back in 1970, a mate and I (in uniform) were walking down George Street, Sydney.
We were accosted, abused and spat upon by a group of dole-bludging lentil-weavers.
Lovely, we thought. What do we do here?
Answer: We picked a couple of them up, bodily threw them out of our way and continued on.
Plus ca change...
We were accosted, abused and spat upon by a group of dole-bludging lentil-weavers.
Lovely, we thought. What do we do here?
Answer: We picked a couple of them up, bodily threw them out of our way and continued on.
Plus ca change...
I was once given an armed escort to hospital while injured and in uniform. There were hostile natives operating in the area, hence the bodyguard. The crushed finger tip I suffered after getting it caught in swing doors at Bishopscourt bloody well hurt and fully justified my GSM NI! 
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Stanwell.
It seems my post was removed, but thanks for the explaination
My thoughts on the story were that the previous incident wasn't expanded on so the press didn't know who the offended or possible offensive patients may be.
my own experience is similar to your above post in that the harshest abuse to service persons came from middle class 'right on' students who thought it was big and clever to call soldiers baby killers. It would make no difference to this group that Syria has been propped up with Russian kit, or that the UK hasn't recently invaded the the country. They would see it as their human rights to abuse men and women in uniform.
Something that REALLY gets me riled is when loud/foul mouthed protesters say that men died in the Second World War so that today's kids can have free speech and support any party or group they want. I can't help but point out that NO they didn't, they gave their lives to make the world a better place. Being part of any group or saying whatever you want would include the Nazi party or verbally abusing servicemen or women, and that's not what these brave people made the ultimate sacrifice for.
Apologies for my initial bite.
It seems my post was removed, but thanks for the explaination
My thoughts on the story were that the previous incident wasn't expanded on so the press didn't know who the offended or possible offensive patients may be.
my own experience is similar to your above post in that the harshest abuse to service persons came from middle class 'right on' students who thought it was big and clever to call soldiers baby killers. It would make no difference to this group that Syria has been propped up with Russian kit, or that the UK hasn't recently invaded the the country. They would see it as their human rights to abuse men and women in uniform.
Something that REALLY gets me riled is when loud/foul mouthed protesters say that men died in the Second World War so that today's kids can have free speech and support any party or group they want. I can't help but point out that NO they didn't, they gave their lives to make the world a better place. Being part of any group or saying whatever you want would include the Nazi party or verbally abusing servicemen or women, and that's not what these brave people made the ultimate sacrifice for.
Apologies for my initial bite.
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Joe Public simply doesn't come across that many military personnel in uniform these days for various reasons not least the dwindling size of the armed forces.
It would be nice to think that, contrary to what the media portray, the public's reaction to seeing personnel in uniform is for the most part pride not a sense of oppression or alarm.
It would be nice to think that, contrary to what the media portray, the public's reaction to seeing personnel in uniform is for the most part pride not a sense of oppression or alarm.
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"It would be nice to think that, contrary to what the media portray, the public's reaction to seeing personnel in uniform is for the most part pride not a sense of oppression or alarm."
for most people it is but I think the same people would be a bit watchfull if the were in a pub or club late at night.............
for most people it is but I think the same people would be a bit watchfull if the were in a pub or club late at night.............
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I've stayed away from this thread up until now because, being a nurse employed by the NHS, I may be seen as 'the enemy' by some!
What some may not know is that I'm also an Auggie nurse, and my day job sees me working for a Midlands area trust, in an area that has a very diverse population. Its the kind of diverse population that would have the average middle-class Guardianistas tripping over themselves to avoid offending, but that doesn't stop the trust showing full support for the Armed Forces. Indeed us reservists are positively encouraged to 'show our colours', with us being encouraged (and allowed by our respective services) to wear our uniforms to work on occasions such as Armed Forces Day. Oddly the only 'trouble' I've ever had when wearing my RAF uniform at work was from some Caucasian drunk outside ED.
As for what went on at the hospital in the story, who knows for sure? Sadly, given that A&E often seems to mean "Anything & Everything", we see a wide variety of 'interesting' characters. For instance, as a recognised place of safety under the Mental Health Act, we see a wide variety of patients with underlying MH problems. I can think of at least two patients I've looked after in the last week to whom the sight of a military uniform could cause issues, so whilst it may initially seem bad, sometimes moving a patient away from potential risks is the right thing to do.
Yes, in an ideal world we'd have security/MH nurses at our beck and call to ensure the safety of all of our patients but we don't live in an ideal world and, given the continued attitude towards the NHS by both the general public and government, we have to do what we can with what we have.
What some may not know is that I'm also an Auggie nurse, and my day job sees me working for a Midlands area trust, in an area that has a very diverse population. Its the kind of diverse population that would have the average middle-class Guardianistas tripping over themselves to avoid offending, but that doesn't stop the trust showing full support for the Armed Forces. Indeed us reservists are positively encouraged to 'show our colours', with us being encouraged (and allowed by our respective services) to wear our uniforms to work on occasions such as Armed Forces Day. Oddly the only 'trouble' I've ever had when wearing my RAF uniform at work was from some Caucasian drunk outside ED.
As for what went on at the hospital in the story, who knows for sure? Sadly, given that A&E often seems to mean "Anything & Everything", we see a wide variety of 'interesting' characters. For instance, as a recognised place of safety under the Mental Health Act, we see a wide variety of patients with underlying MH problems. I can think of at least two patients I've looked after in the last week to whom the sight of a military uniform could cause issues, so whilst it may initially seem bad, sometimes moving a patient away from potential risks is the right thing to do.
Yes, in an ideal world we'd have security/MH nurses at our beck and call to ensure the safety of all of our patients but we don't live in an ideal world and, given the continued attitude towards the NHS by both the general public and government, we have to do what we can with what we have.
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I've stayed away from this thread up until now because, being a nurse employed by the NHS, I may be seen as 'the enemy' by some!
What some may not know is that I'm also an Auggie nurse, and my day job sees me working for a Midlands area trust, in an area that has a very diverse population. Its the kind of diverse population that would have the average middle-class Guardianistas tripping over themselves to avoid offending, but that doesn't stop the trust showing full support for the Armed Forces. Indeed us reservists are positively encouraged to 'show our colours', with us being encouraged (and allowed by our respective services) to wear our uniforms to work on occasions such as Armed Forces Day. Oddly the only 'trouble' I've ever had when wearing my RAF uniform at work was from some Caucasian drunk outside ED.
As for what went on at the hospital in the story, who knows for sure? Sadly, given that A&E often seems to mean "Anything & Everything", we see a wide variety of 'interesting' characters. For instance, as a recognised place of safety under the Mental Health Act, we see a wide variety of patients with underlying MH problems. I can think of at least two patients I've looked after in the last week to whom the sight of a military uniform could cause issues, so whilst it may initially seem bad, sometimes moving a patient away from potential risks is the right thing to do.
Yes, in an ideal world we'd have security/MH nurses at our beck and call to ensure the safety of all of our patients but we don't live in an ideal world and, given the continued attitude towards the NHS by both the general public and government, we have to do what we can with what we have.
What some may not know is that I'm also an Auggie nurse, and my day job sees me working for a Midlands area trust, in an area that has a very diverse population. Its the kind of diverse population that would have the average middle-class Guardianistas tripping over themselves to avoid offending, but that doesn't stop the trust showing full support for the Armed Forces. Indeed us reservists are positively encouraged to 'show our colours', with us being encouraged (and allowed by our respective services) to wear our uniforms to work on occasions such as Armed Forces Day. Oddly the only 'trouble' I've ever had when wearing my RAF uniform at work was from some Caucasian drunk outside ED.
As for what went on at the hospital in the story, who knows for sure? Sadly, given that A&E often seems to mean "Anything & Everything", we see a wide variety of 'interesting' characters. For instance, as a recognised place of safety under the Mental Health Act, we see a wide variety of patients with underlying MH problems. I can think of at least two patients I've looked after in the last week to whom the sight of a military uniform could cause issues, so whilst it may initially seem bad, sometimes moving a patient away from potential risks is the right thing to do.
Yes, in an ideal world we'd have security/MH nurses at our beck and call to ensure the safety of all of our patients but we don't live in an ideal world and, given the continued attitude towards the NHS by both the general public and government, we have to do what we can with what we have.
Sadly the general reaction to this particular incident is IMHO a measure of how frustrated many of us are with the effects of rampant political correctness and its mis-application.
