Opinions on 'Lightning boys' 'Vulcan boys etc'
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Opinions on 'Lightning boys' 'Vulcan boys etc'
I have read 'Hunter boys' and 'Lightning boys 1 and 2.
I especially enjoyed the Lightning stories, any others on this forum read
any of this series ?
What do you think ?
I especially enjoyed the Lightning stories, any others on this forum read
any of this series ?
What do you think ?
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Have read yours plus Valiant, Vulcan, Harrier and Phantom Boys; all good reads, especially to an old FJ dude.They would have all benefitted from Appendices including the Squadrons, Types, COs and bases. 
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The books are good, the actual 'boys' themselves though seem to have a slight wiff of stale beer and urine about them.
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I have read Lightning Boys, which I thought was rather too samey in that when you had read one story about 'There I was at 40,000 feet with nothing on the clock but the maker's name when all of a sudden I had a No2 Engine Fire' you have read them all and Lightning Boys was, in the main, a repetition of the same/similar story written by a different author. I read it because I was about to become involved in assisting with 'The Buccaneer Boys' and I wanted to see what I was comparing it with.
The Buccaneer Boys is a completely different volume from Lightning Boys and, dare I say it, reflects very much the character of those who were fortunate to be selected to fly the Buccaneer in the FAA, SAAF and RAF. Each story is different and virtually all are written with a huge slice of humour exposing not only what went on in the cockpit but also some of the goings on in and around the squadron too.
Biased I may be but I can thoroughly recommend it if you want a bloody good laugh and an insight into what life was like for Buccaneer aircrew.
Here's an unbiased review that was published on line when the book first came out:
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The Buccaneer Boys is a completely different volume from Lightning Boys and, dare I say it, reflects very much the character of those who were fortunate to be selected to fly the Buccaneer in the FAA, SAAF and RAF. Each story is different and virtually all are written with a huge slice of humour exposing not only what went on in the cockpit but also some of the goings on in and around the squadron too.
Biased I may be but I can thoroughly recommend it if you want a bloody good laugh and an insight into what life was like for Buccaneer aircrew.
Here's an unbiased review that was published on line when the book first came out:
If things seem bad today, then a look at the 1960s shows a time when the fortunes of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces were really beginning to suffer. The government under Harold Wilson made a succession of sweeping defence spending cuts and began to withdraw the military from places far afield associated with the days of empire. It would be easy to lapse into rose tinted images of it, but the age of empire was over and political and financial reality, then as now, had to be addressed.
His government also cut dead a number of important procurement programs including the fabled TSR2 bomber and a new fleet of aircraft carriers. For a time it looked like the RAF would get the General Dynamics F1-11 instead, but the money wasn’t even there for that and so a compromise was found in the Royal Navy’s new Blackburn NA39 Buccaneer.
If you’re looking for a classic 1960s jet then the Buccaneer ticks all the boxes with it’s beautiful shape and persuasive image of brute power. The aircraft remained in service until after the 1991 Gulf War where it provided a sterling service marking targets for GR1 Tornado bombers that had suffered losses in the early phase of the war leading to the many ghastly appearances on television by captured British and Italian airmen. But, we should also remember that several others died.
I have had a quick scan through my library of snaps and don’t recall ever seeing a Buccaneer in flight, but there is one at Hendon and I remember being very impressed at the sight of the old brute. I’ve obviously got no problem with the Harrier but I am inclined to say a Buccaneer in it’s classic blue on white naval livery would go very well in the international line up on the deck of the USS Intrepid in New York to show what classic British aircraft could look like.
Aesthetics aside, the aircraft is hardly likely to be at the top of many an enthusiast’s lists of must have histories. But, this too is just a shallow impression because for some time now Grub Street have been producing fantastic books on the classic British war jets with accounts from aircrew and so much more to illustrate what action packed lives the aircraft had, even in peace time.
This wonderful book by Air Commodore Graham Pitchfork takes us into the world of the pilots and navigators who flew the aircraft for the RAF, Royal Navy and South African Air Force. In addition to his own story he throws the book open to a succession of well written reminiscences by a group of equally enthusiastic airmen nostalgic for an aircraft they appear to love above all others.The result is an entertaining and thoroughly engaging book.
We hear from a South African who had the misfortune to eject into the Atlantic from a spinning Buccaneer and many more tales from men who flew endless hours of training and practise exercises across Britain, the Far East and elsewhere.
It was all very competitive and these men were genuinely the real deal, but we are fortunate they never had to use their skills against the Warsaw Pact.
The photographs are superb and the overall light-heartedness of the book really helps the reader zip along through what are actually deadly serious events. I can remember being a kid watching TV footage of the RAF bombing the tanker Torrey Canyon foundered on rocks close to the Scilly Isles. The plan was to prevent huge amounts of oil reaching the Cornish coastline. They set the tanker ablaze in an attempt to burn off the crude and the precision of their bombing is recalled here in the book.
The book gives us a feel of what it was like to fly this magnificent aircraft, the last all-British bomber, from the decks of the famous carriers of the period – Ark Royal, Victorious and Eagle.I remember seeing Eagle just after she had been paid off at Portsmouth at the start of a sad period of being a spares source for Ark Royal before she was finally given up for scrap in 1978.
This book is so much more than a big blob of nostalgia for times past. More importantly, it forms part of a growing collection of histories of post-war British military aviation and aviators. The quality of this book speaks for itself and I have no hesitation in recommending it to you.
Review by Mark Barnes for War History Online
BUCCANEER BOYS
True Tales By Those Who Flew the ‘last all-British bomber’
By Graham Pitchfork
Grub Street
ISBN: 987 1 90916 610 0
His government also cut dead a number of important procurement programs including the fabled TSR2 bomber and a new fleet of aircraft carriers. For a time it looked like the RAF would get the General Dynamics F1-11 instead, but the money wasn’t even there for that and so a compromise was found in the Royal Navy’s new Blackburn NA39 Buccaneer.
If you’re looking for a classic 1960s jet then the Buccaneer ticks all the boxes with it’s beautiful shape and persuasive image of brute power. The aircraft remained in service until after the 1991 Gulf War where it provided a sterling service marking targets for GR1 Tornado bombers that had suffered losses in the early phase of the war leading to the many ghastly appearances on television by captured British and Italian airmen. But, we should also remember that several others died.
I have had a quick scan through my library of snaps and don’t recall ever seeing a Buccaneer in flight, but there is one at Hendon and I remember being very impressed at the sight of the old brute. I’ve obviously got no problem with the Harrier but I am inclined to say a Buccaneer in it’s classic blue on white naval livery would go very well in the international line up on the deck of the USS Intrepid in New York to show what classic British aircraft could look like.
Aesthetics aside, the aircraft is hardly likely to be at the top of many an enthusiast’s lists of must have histories. But, this too is just a shallow impression because for some time now Grub Street have been producing fantastic books on the classic British war jets with accounts from aircrew and so much more to illustrate what action packed lives the aircraft had, even in peace time.
This wonderful book by Air Commodore Graham Pitchfork takes us into the world of the pilots and navigators who flew the aircraft for the RAF, Royal Navy and South African Air Force. In addition to his own story he throws the book open to a succession of well written reminiscences by a group of equally enthusiastic airmen nostalgic for an aircraft they appear to love above all others.The result is an entertaining and thoroughly engaging book.
We hear from a South African who had the misfortune to eject into the Atlantic from a spinning Buccaneer and many more tales from men who flew endless hours of training and practise exercises across Britain, the Far East and elsewhere.
It was all very competitive and these men were genuinely the real deal, but we are fortunate they never had to use their skills against the Warsaw Pact.
The photographs are superb and the overall light-heartedness of the book really helps the reader zip along through what are actually deadly serious events. I can remember being a kid watching TV footage of the RAF bombing the tanker Torrey Canyon foundered on rocks close to the Scilly Isles. The plan was to prevent huge amounts of oil reaching the Cornish coastline. They set the tanker ablaze in an attempt to burn off the crude and the precision of their bombing is recalled here in the book.
The book gives us a feel of what it was like to fly this magnificent aircraft, the last all-British bomber, from the decks of the famous carriers of the period – Ark Royal, Victorious and Eagle.I remember seeing Eagle just after she had been paid off at Portsmouth at the start of a sad period of being a spares source for Ark Royal before she was finally given up for scrap in 1978.
This book is so much more than a big blob of nostalgia for times past. More importantly, it forms part of a growing collection of histories of post-war British military aviation and aviators. The quality of this book speaks for itself and I have no hesitation in recommending it to you.
Review by Mark Barnes for War History Online
BUCCANEER BOYS
True Tales By Those Who Flew the ‘last all-British bomber’
By Graham Pitchfork
Grub Street
ISBN: 987 1 90916 610 0
Most of the FJ titles are very readable indeed. As indicated above, the Lightning title is a bit repetitive (WIWOL, WIWOL, WIWOL, etc). Boys from the heavy stuff, eg Victor Boys, not nearly so entertaining. For reviews of them all, google Sky & Bullets. (Shameless plug).
All in all a good reminder, not that it is needed on this forum, that it is the humans, not the hardware, that provide the spine (& laughs) in our, and many other AFs.
Presently waiting for tales from boys on the mighty Toom.
All in all a good reminder, not that it is needed on this forum, that it is the humans, not the hardware, that provide the spine (& laughs) in our, and many other AFs.
Presently waiting for tales from boys on the mighty Toom.
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I think there is a jaguar Boys too, though I heard it was slow reading 
One pilot I worked with regaled a tale of coming back from a distant land (Far East) and the elevator response being heavy, he had to get back for something so carried on, upon arrival the nav had the ground crew open the aft end or Bombay or the likes and peering in he saw a washing machine neatly tied to the control runs to secure it.. Whether true or not, I know not, but it made a good tale when he told it over some beers.
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If "Canberra boys" ever turns up it's going to be a very large volume....
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I have bought, and read Lighning boys 1 and 2, Jaguar Boys. Phantom Boys, Victor Boys, Buccaneer Boys, Valiant Boys and Vulcan Boys ? I'm a sucker for punishment perhaps, as a non aircrew bloke, but in their own ways each brings out the love of flying, those who were lucky enough to have been paid to do it, had for their occupation. As an ex Truckie worker, I'm sure Beverly boys, Argosy Grandpa's and Herk Ancients would be thrilling reading. I can't knock any of the books, all in their individual way give us an insight in to the people who flew and supported the aircraft, and the fact that it's published means that it won't be forgotten easily, as many of the exploits of their predecessors has been.
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Following on from Canberra tales, we used to 'pop' off to the far east to buy goodies. I do recall the Canberra pilot suddenly spotting Gan 40,000 feet below (no INAS, DME or GPS in those days). To get down quickly, the pilot (no names, no pack drill) opened the bomb bay doors to add to the drag, whereupon the pannier containing all the crew goodies deposited itself into the Indian Ocean. Buy my book to see how I personally screwed up 
By the way Nutloose, Jaguar Boys is a great read. I finished it in 10 seconds, but there again, the Jaguar was always rather fast. Just did not turn.
By the way Nutloose, Jaguar Boys is a great read. I finished it in 10 seconds, but there again, the Jaguar was always rather fast. Just did not turn.
