This Is Not Funny Anymore! (Russia And The Baltic Sea)
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This Is Not Funny Anymore! (Russia And The Baltic Sea)
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Hempy has good points.
Ps
There are no Ukrainians living in Crimea.
It never belonged to them anyway.
I meant they never fought to defend it.
Russians were attacked there by English French and Ottomans and had to fight bloody battle for three years 170 years ago.
http://www.britannica.com/event/Crimean-War
Also when the brotherly transfer was done in 1954 it was done illegally !!!.
The constitution was amended 3 days AFTER the transfer.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_transfer_of_Crimea
Ps
Even Baltic states were separated illegally....
So they are now as happy as orphans, plus
in company of some nasty pedofiles.
Hempy has good points.
Ps
There are no Ukrainians living in Crimea.
It never belonged to them anyway.
I meant they never fought to defend it.
Russians were attacked there by English French and Ottomans and had to fight bloody battle for three years 170 years ago.
http://www.britannica.com/event/Crimean-War
Also when the brotherly transfer was done in 1954 it was done illegally !!!.
The constitution was amended 3 days AFTER the transfer.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_transfer_of_Crimea
Ps
Even Baltic states were separated illegally....
So they are now as happy as orphans, plus
in company of some nasty pedofiles.
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The thread title refers to Russia and the Baltic Sea, not Kiev. But please don't stop, you are really brightening my day, I haven't laughed so much since grandmother died or aunty Mabel caught her left t*t in a mangle.
Ohh dear I hope she is doing ok, please keep us abreast of your Aunty Mabel's condition.
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Even Baltic states were separated illegally...
Please clarify.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I believe it is a reference to this. Though they are back peddling frantically.
needless to say the baltic states are not happy.......
I think GG is slightly off message. Not read the hot file since he got to work.
needless to say the baltic states are not happy.......
I think GG is slightly off message. Not read the hot file since he got to work.
Green Guard,
We in the UK also lost an Empire, but we got over it. We do not seek to again rule Pakistan, India, large swathes of Africa or, indeed, the USA. These are now independent countries with their own desires and wishes. The principle of self-determination is paramount. If any of these ex-CCCP countries, that you wish to have back, chose to join Russia again, I would support you completely. But they have to want to do so - aiming to repossess them by force is lunacy.
We in the UK also lost an Empire, but we got over it. We do not seek to again rule Pakistan, India, large swathes of Africa or, indeed, the USA. These are now independent countries with their own desires and wishes. The principle of self-determination is paramount. If any of these ex-CCCP countries, that you wish to have back, chose to join Russia again, I would support you completely. But they have to want to do so - aiming to repossess them by force is lunacy.
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Red Line. Putin is a member of the 'Soviet generation'.
Im not suggesting what you say about the British Empire is wrong, I'm just putting it to you that until those born before 1990 are irrelevant, history still has an influence.
Putin is still living in 1985. That's why he's dangerous.
Im not suggesting what you say about the British Empire is wrong, I'm just putting it to you that until those born before 1990 are irrelevant, history still has an influence.
Putin is still living in 1985. That's why he's dangerous.
About the roos loose in the top paddock, to be sure.
Irrelevant to the current conversation, however.
Pro Tip: argument by shotgun blast (throwing every topic you can onto the page) rarely works. I usuallyl only succeeds in hurting your credibility. Try to stay focused within a given paragraph. I realize English may not be your native language. Our general structural method is to give each topic its own place, then proceed to another topic.
No, they were not. One might argue that their being occupied back in the 40's was illegal ... but then, when it comes to international law, laws are only as good as their enforcement.
Now that was funny, I laughed into my coffee mug.
Back to the Baltic and our Scandanavian friends disliking their big neighbor: welcome to the post cold war world. It is multi polar, and more dangerous in a lot of ways.
Ps. There are no Ukrainians living in Crimea. It never belonged to them anyway. I meant they never fought to defend it. Russians were attacked there by English French and Ottomans and had to fight bloody battle for three years 170 years ago.
Pro Tip: argument by shotgun blast (throwing every topic you can onto the page) rarely works. I usuallyl only succeeds in hurting your credibility. Try to stay focused within a given paragraph. I realize English may not be your native language. Our general structural method is to give each topic its own place, then proceed to another topic.
Even Baltic states were separated illegally....
So they are now as happy as orphans, plus in company of some nasty pedofiles.
Back to the Baltic and our Scandanavian friends disliking their big neighbor: welcome to the post cold war world. It is multi polar, and more dangerous in a lot of ways.
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Oh dear, I came back and was really not prepared for this...
Green Guard
Thank you for clarifying your post for me. What I still don't understand (and I think I said this before) is why you need to talk about things that happened many hundred years before now. As I also said, noone wants to invade Russia now. Why would you think so? Who said that?
Lonewolf_50
I don't think anyone in Scandinavia dislikes Russians. I do believe that many are worried about the current Russian attitude towards Russia's neighbours. Generally, Russian people are very friendly and fun, it's just that somehow they always get these stupid leaders that wants to go to war instead of promoting the Russian food, folk lore and music. Russia has a very amazing heritage in this area, sadly not many get to see this because the leaders instead want to show off "guns and ammo"...
Green Guard
Thank you for clarifying your post for me. What I still don't understand (and I think I said this before) is why you need to talk about things that happened many hundred years before now. As I also said, noone wants to invade Russia now. Why would you think so? Who said that?
Lonewolf_50
I don't think anyone in Scandinavia dislikes Russians. I do believe that many are worried about the current Russian attitude towards Russia's neighbours. Generally, Russian people are very friendly and fun, it's just that somehow they always get these stupid leaders that wants to go to war instead of promoting the Russian food, folk lore and music. Russia has a very amazing heritage in this area, sadly not many get to see this because the leaders instead want to show off "guns and ammo"...
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I don't think anyone in Scandinavia dislikes Russians. I do believe that many are worried about the current Russian attitude towards Russia's neighbours. Generally, Russian people are very friendly and fun, it's just that somehow they always get these stupid leaders that wants to go to war instead of promoting the Russian food, folk lore and music. Russia has a very amazing heritage in this area, sadly not many get to see this because the leaders instead want to show off "guns and ammo"...
Screwed the pooch is all they did. There were some promising cooperative efforts in the mid 90's that were killed off by the decision to go after Serbia for the sake of Kosovars and Albanians, after Bosnia was more or less sorted. 70 days of bombing Serbia ... for what?
It sent the Russians a message they are not likely to forget.
"I'm pretty sure Green Guard is saying that the Crimean Peninsula, historically, was never a part of Ukrainian territory until 1954, when it was handed to the Ukraine by the USSR to be a part of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. The Ukraine gave the Crimea autonomous control under Ukrainian protection after the collapse of the USSR in 1991, and now 'Russia' is claiming it back again as 'their territory'."
it was handed to Ukraine under presumption it will never leave Soviet Union, back then noone in USSR dared to even think about dissolution
the problem is that back in 1991 noone in Russia thought that Ukrainians might want to join EU&NATO one day, so leasing Crimea from Ukraine looked like the most simple option for them, bad judgement again
it was handed to Ukraine under presumption it will never leave Soviet Union, back then noone in USSR dared to even think about dissolution
the problem is that back in 1991 noone in Russia thought that Ukrainians might want to join EU&NATO one day, so leasing Crimea from Ukraine looked like the most simple option for them, bad judgement again
There are no Ukrainians living in Crimea.
During the 1897 census there was 35.55% Crimean Tatars, 33.11% Russians, 11.84% Ukrainians and 19.51 others. During 2001 census there was 58.5% Russians, 24.4% Ukrainians and 12.1% Tatars.
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