Reports of A400 Crash, Saville, Spain
Mickj3,
I think 212man's post was more specific than you have inferred. His remark could apply equally to non-professional pilots. But this is neither the time nor the place to get into personal indignation. Think of the crew and family for now.
I think 212man's post was more specific than you have inferred. His remark could apply equally to non-professional pilots. But this is neither the time nor the place to get into personal indignation. Think of the crew and family for now.
Actually, I amended very quickly after posting it, and removed the reference to pilots, so not sure why you haven't seen that. Sorry for the unintended offence
Posted by 212man. quote "Because, in the main, the pages on this forum are frequented by professional pilots, not a bunch of knob-heads".
I have thought hard about replying to 212mans post but feel that I must. I object to the arrogant inference that if one is not a pilot one is a knob-head. 212 has demonstrated that at least one pilot fits into that category.
Very sad event in Spain, RIP to all those involved.
I have thought hard about replying to 212mans post but feel that I must. I object to the arrogant inference that if one is not a pilot one is a knob-head. 212 has demonstrated that at least one pilot fits into that category.
Very sad event in Spain, RIP to all those involved.
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Posted by 212man. quote "Because, in the main, the pages on this forum are frequented by professional pilots, not a bunch of knob-heads".
I have thought hard about replying to 212mans post but feel that I must. I object to the arrogant inference that if one is not a pilot one is a knob-head. 212 has demonstrated that at least one pilot fits into that category.
Very sad event in Spain, RIP to all those involved.
I have thought hard about replying to 212mans post but feel that I must. I object to the arrogant inference that if one is not a pilot one is a knob-head. 212 has demonstrated that at least one pilot fits into that category.
Very sad event in Spain, RIP to all those involved.
I must say, I admire Airbus' handling of this. I was busy with other things, and the first I heard of it was a press release from them.
In their second release, they used the phrase "devastated to confirm ..... we have lost 4 of our crew ...."
Not your usual corporate 'communication', I think.
Not only that, but each email included the names, phone numbers and emails of no less than seven people to contact if necessary.
Dignified way to behave.
airsound
In their second release, they used the phrase "devastated to confirm ..... we have lost 4 of our crew ...."
Not your usual corporate 'communication', I think.
Not only that, but each email included the names, phone numbers and emails of no less than seven people to contact if necessary.
Dignified way to behave.
airsound
I noticed a Bmi Regional Embraer hot-footing it down from Bristol to Seville yesterday (on FR24)....not a usual route, so I suspect related?
These things happen so rarely these days that they are the more shocking when they do, RIP and speedy recovery to those involved.
These things happen so rarely these days that they are the more shocking when they do, RIP and speedy recovery to those involved.
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Media have reported that the crew reported a technical problem. Has there been any indication that they stated the nature of the problem?
Also, many sources are now reporting that both flight recorders have been found. We should have some pretty solid information in a day or two.
Also, many sources are now reporting that both flight recorders have been found. We should have some pretty solid information in a day or two.
Well I guess I got an answer from 212 man-although not phrased in a very professional way cpnsidering the rational reason he gives.
I don't disagree with the gist of his answer , personally although I read some Mil threads of interest to me I don't look at them enough to form an opinion about whether they are not read anything like as widely as some of the 'main' ones.
I don't disagree with the gist of his answer , personally although I read some Mil threads of interest to me I don't look at them enough to form an opinion about whether they are not read anything like as widely as some of the 'main' ones.
Besides this being a military plane, i would humble ask...is this also equipped with a similar CVR & FDR like in the civil ones, or something similar?
A true sad tragedy...may all rest in peace and to those two other occupants may could recover fast. JF
A true sad tragedy...may all rest in peace and to those two other occupants may could recover fast. JF
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Very selfless act on their part.
It seems that one was earned.
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Saw my first A400m only a few weeks ago. My youngest was very impressed by it.
My condolences to all affected by this. I hope those injured recover quickly and we'll.
My condolences to all affected by this. I hope those injured recover quickly and we'll.
Wycombe, pax britanica and SteveRosenburg,
Did you miss trumpet trousers' posts? A request from fellow PPRuNers for some dignity. So why not leave the speculation alone and drop the personal indignation? Leave it for another place and a another time.
Did you miss trumpet trousers' posts? A request from fellow PPRuNers for some dignity. So why not leave the speculation alone and drop the personal indignation? Leave it for another place and a another time.
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There's a report of multiple engine failures attributed to one of the survivor of the crash.
A400M: Überlebender berichtet von Triebwerkschaden - SPIEGEL ONLINE
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A400M: Überlebender berichtet von Triebwerkschaden - SPIEGEL ONLINE
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https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url
Come again, Courtney? You would not see me speculating around the accident itself, or any other. Further indignation at your accusation at this point would not be appropriate either.
Whilst respecting the sad loss of fellow professionals, Pprune IS the place to discuss thoughts, causes, whatever provided it is within the bounds of decency. That is the beauty of Pprune and if anyone thinks otherwise - "Where have you been for the last 20yrs on Pprune".
Causes / assumptions: bring it on.............................................
Hey, this is aviation - sh*t happens
Causes / assumptions: bring it on.............................................
Hey, this is aviation - sh*t happens
It can't be wrong to share some technical news and informed thoughts. However we should better just avoid the usual blame game and respect the privacy of those involved.