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I wonder what the CEP would have been. Consider a bomber position accurate of 400 yards, target position error iro 70 yards, you start with an error of 500 yards. What would the missile have added, 400 yards or more?
Still, 850 kts air burst would have been a bit noisy at the DGZ.
*RS was megaton range but actually just below 1MT.
Still, 850 kts air burst would have been a bit noisy at the DGZ.
*RS was megaton range but actually just below 1MT.
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Some german Tornados in their war role can carry US owned and controlled B61s stored in Germany if those weapons are released by the US President.
Great for them.
Some French Mirage 2000N-K3 and Rafale-F3 can carry French owned and controlled TNA thermonuclear warhead (300 Kt) launched by the airborne missile ASMP (circa 100 km range at low-altitude, Mach 3) if those weapons are released by the French President.
Some german Tornados in their war role can carry US owned and controlled B61s stored in Germany if those weapons are released by the US President.
Great for them.
Some French Mirage 2000N-K3 and Rafale-F3 can carry French owned and controlled TNA thermonuclear warhead (300 Kt) launched by the airborne missile ASMP (circa 100 km range at low-altitude, Mach 3) if those weapons are released by the French President.
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[I wonder what the CEP would have been. Consider a bomber position accurate of 400 yards, target position error iro 70 yards, you start with an error of 500 yards. What would the missile have added, 400 yards or more?
If memory serves, the Fire Control System provided a modified lead collision solution, aiming the ballistic, non-maneuvering rocket to detonate the equivalent of 0.7 seconds of target travel ahead of the target and about 500 feet below, thus allowing the warhead fireball to fully develop.
Very high PK against the targets we would pursue in NORAD.
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TLB, sorry, I was referring to BEagles post as could be deduced from RS, DGZ and yield of 850kt cf Genie at 1.5kt.
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Interesting reading is mentioned in that linky
I have both the Goldsboro accident and Command and Control on the iPad book thingy and are good if worrying reads
I have both the Goldsboro accident and Command and Control on the iPad book thingy and are good if worrying reads
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Some german Tornados in their war role can carry US owned and controlled B61s stored in Germany if those weapons are released by the US President.
Great for them.
Some French Mirage 2000N-K3 and Rafale-F3 can carry French owned and controlled TNA thermonuclear warhead (300 Kt) launched by the airborne missile ASMP (circa 100 km range at low-altitude, Mach 3) if those weapons are released by the French President.
Some german Tornados in their war role can carry US owned and controlled B61s stored in Germany if those weapons are released by the US President.
Great for them.
Some French Mirage 2000N-K3 and Rafale-F3 can carry French owned and controlled TNA thermonuclear warhead (300 Kt) launched by the airborne missile ASMP (circa 100 km range at low-altitude, Mach 3) if those weapons are released by the French President.
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Ricardian, can you explain your last? We're You a telegraphist. or was it a quite? Clicking on it takes you to Cold War Warriors: John Murphys': The Cuban Missile Crisis - "Execute Scabbards '63 " a disconnected link from your statement.
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Ricardian, can you explain your last? We're You a telegraphist. or was it a quite? Clicking on it takes you to Cold War Warriors: John Murphys': The Cuban Missile Crisis - "Execute Scabbards '63 " a disconnected link from your statement.
When you work in a commcen you have the responsibility to ensure that all messages leaving that commcen are duly authorised. If you have any doubts you should check with the originator. If you still have doubts then you have no option but to actually transmit the message and only then take the matter higher (much, much higher if needs be).
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I used to work in a military training establishment. One of the Instructional Officers had been an RAF radar tech in an earlier life. He spoke about the H2S sets used on the V-bombers.
"It wasn't very accurate - but it didn't really matter; it was a nuclear bomb".
Indeed; I don't suppose it really matters if a 1MT airburst is on the other side of town.
"It wasn't very accurate - but it didn't really matter; it was a nuclear bomb".
Indeed; I don't suppose it really matters if a 1MT airburst is on the other side of town.
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Roadsters, it would have been a small town.
At high altitude, after an evasive bomb run allowing for combat degradation, accuracy would have been better than 3,000 yards. The errors had more to do with the compass systems and offset aiming.
At low level we expected to crater a runway with at least one bomb*
We only carried one.
At high altitude, after an evasive bomb run allowing for combat degradation, accuracy would have been better than 3,000 yards. The errors had more to do with the compass systems and offset aiming.
At low level we expected to crater a runway with at least one bomb*
We only carried one.
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Thanks PN.
I looked at this nifty tool:
NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein
And nuked Swindon with a 1MT airburst optimized for overpressure. Apparently 113K dead, slightly fewer wounded. The 5psi ring seems to entirely cover the town.
I'm not sure if this tool is a splendid toy or absolutely horrific. I tried it on Manchester, same settings. Half a million dead with one weapon.
I imagine 30 years ago, primitive versions of this kind of simulator existed in bunkers and were somewhat classified!
I looked at this nifty tool:
NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein
And nuked Swindon with a 1MT airburst optimized for overpressure. Apparently 113K dead, slightly fewer wounded. The 5psi ring seems to entirely cover the town.
I'm not sure if this tool is a splendid toy or absolutely horrific. I tried it on Manchester, same settings. Half a million dead with one weapon.
I imagine 30 years ago, primitive versions of this kind of simulator existed in bunkers and were somewhat classified!
At low level we expected to crater a runway with at least one bomb*
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W C, no, just the runway, 400 yards wide and 120 feet deep. Bit of spoil and blow the glass out of the terminal I guess 
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Seriously, an airfield with 4 HAS spurs off the ends of the runway might have some aircraft survive, operating surfaces OTOH would need a bit of polygonal and smoothing.
.Seriously, an airfield with 4 HAS spurs off the ends of the runway might have some aircraft survive, operating surfaces OTOH would need a bit of polygonal and smoothing.
And nuked Swindon with a 1MT airburst optimized for overpressure. Apparently 113K dead, slightly fewer wounded.
