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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 13:30
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PN, it's pastime innit?


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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 13:35
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Of course its a sport; unlike the Dominos that you play in your cardigan down at the RAFA Club, PN!

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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 13:38
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The entire story is incorrect and utterly misleading in the extreme ... I understand this is a new Top Secret wind tunnel facility to assist in the teaching of advanced aerodynamic principles



Complex stuff this
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 14:07
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Ah Coff,
Dr Hugh Hunt used that same analogy when he lectured at Cambridge RAeS on the bouncing bomb. He was assisted by one of his female researchers/students. Sorry I took my eye off the ball so to speak so can't recall much of the theory.


On a serious note I benefited for many years from the free use of service sports facilities. Swimming pools all over the globe in the 60s, The golf course at Oakington in the 70s (all maintained on a self help basis by members) Only recently did I hear how the sand for the bunkers was diverted by my dad from the firing range.


In 2000 and something they began to charge us civilians for the use of the Gym at Wyton. I still have my card with authority to draw the keys somewhere.
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PN - There used to be the Per Ardua Beagles, the Cranwell pack
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Only recently did I hear how the sand for the bunkers was diverted by my dad from the firing range.
I can remember the USAF flying in sand in a C5 for their volleyball courts into a desert air base in Saudi - the whole place was surrounded by sand. The Camel Spiders, Scorpions and Sand Vipers thought they had died and gone to heaven!

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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 14:46
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Wander00 ... I find the Labrador is better at retrieving golf balls than the Beagle
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 14:47
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AT is fine if you are on an RAF Formed Unit. Try doing it when you are part of the so-called 'Diaspora'; moreso if you are overseas. You need to be able to hear about it (difficult if you are not on DII-F), then do the paperwork through some dismembered head in another country who requires documents to be faxed (as they haven't got access to a scanner). Then there's the issue of flight coast and T&S in transit. In my last job, I argued until I was blue in the face about this; after a while, it just fell into the 'too hard' category - especially when you are not under OPCON of one of the Services.

Not bitter - I've had my fair share over the years, but the rules need to be a little more flexible, especially if you are without PEd and TD/FD staff.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 14:48
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ISTR that going out with the Per Ardua pack was a "place to be seen". When I was at Wyton there was an annual meet of the Fitzwilliam pack on the airfield
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 15:16
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Old Bricks, an occasional PPRuNer, used to go out with the Per Ardua pack. He told us that there were 3 options:

1. Follow the little buggers. That was quite knackering!
2. Stand at the top of a hill and watch them. That was rather more gentlemanly, but one could get rather chilly.
3. Sit in a nice warm pub and think about them.

Option 3 got his vote!
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 16:20
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Greg, the Mail comments aren't immediately modded. But you may need to reload the page to see your comment. It will have been buried by many more by then though.

BEags, I love it. I'd chose a bit of 2 then fallback to 3.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 19:26
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I have to hand the The Royal Air Force Athletes and Games Handbook published by the RAF Sports Board 1964/65.

It runs to 730 pages.

Beagling gets 3 pages. Golf 45 pages, but Dominoes, Draughts, and Darts none at all.

Model aircraft, as befits an air arm gets 4 pages. The one I like best is Small Arms. The rules specify .38 revolvers, Stem and Bren etc and quite fascinating.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 20:44
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My goodness PN, what a library you have!!!

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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 20:48
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It seems cheap for RAF golf. I heard that they spent millions for just a bunker at Boulmer.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 20:52
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Yes, and once in even the best sandwedge couldn't entice them out!
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 22:31
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£14K ? Trivia, wouldn't buy a mess steward these days. And certainly makes no difference to aircraft spares procurement, and the cost of training the front end of what's left of our RAF. I rather suspect that £14K would look like peanuts when compared to just one MPs expense claims, but then, in this article we are in the business of crapping on the military, not the politicary

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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 23:00
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This was pathetic, lazy journalism by the Mail on Sunday and The Sunday Times.
Situation normal then.
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
The one I like best is Small Arms. The rules specify .38 revolvers, Stem and Bren etc and quite fascinating.
And the RAF Small Arms Association is/was unique in having a paid [by the RAF Sports Board] Secretary & Treasurer, as the incumbent was required to spend several weeks at Bisley for the RAF and National Championship Meetings, and other major events during the year.

Not a practical option for someone doing a Secondary Duty.
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Old 24th Nov 2014, 11:32
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MPN, one Flt Lt RS Hassel was on the committee. There was a lot of moaning at Lindholme where as stn nav he spent most of his time at Bisley. It wad suggested Ty to him, as a general list officer, that he should determine his priorities.

I last saw him on TV as the British Olympic shooting coach.

Priorities sorted.
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Old 24th Nov 2014, 11:45
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£14K; peanuts - DIO would charge us that just to fit a new light bulb. If journos want to muck-rake, have a look at how much it costs to get any works services done now that DIO run the show!
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