Telegraph - RAF bare bones article
exhorder,
I'll take your correction, the figure of 15 was put to Hammond by Andrew Neil, and to be honest, he was clearly unaware of the correct figure as instead of correcting Andrew Neil he chose the less means more argument to shoot him down in flames with.
FB
I'll take your correction, the figure of 15 was put to Hammond by Andrew Neil, and to be honest, he was clearly unaware of the correct figure as instead of correcting Andrew Neil he chose the less means more argument to shoot him down in flames with.
FB
BBC News reporting that the PM's decided that II(AC) will be flying GR4s for a year longer than planned....! I wonder if there'll be another Sqn stood up for the TyF or if they're going to have to manage with one less...?
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5F6B,
As I'm sure you've suspected, there'll be no 5th Typhoon squadron next year, just the retention of a 3rd Tornado Squadron for a year. If we get a Labour Government in May, and I know many think I'm too sweeping about the left and their approach to all things military, but it would afford them an opportunity far too good to miss. Milliband, I just can't see making good the 5th Typhoon unit when they get round to disbanding 2 Sqn eventually.
FB
As I'm sure you've suspected, there'll be no 5th Typhoon squadron next year, just the retention of a 3rd Tornado Squadron for a year. If we get a Labour Government in May, and I know many think I'm too sweeping about the left and their approach to all things military, but it would afford them an opportunity far too good to miss. Milliband, I just can't see making good the 5th Typhoon unit when they get round to disbanding 2 Sqn eventually.
FB
FB, where have you seen it written that the GR4s will continue under the II(AC) banner or that the 5th Typhoon sqn will be delayed? That would have serious implications as the ground and aircrews for that sqn are undergoing conversion courses at the moment, or already sitting on the existing 4 sqns biding their time....
I've started a separate thread on the postponement of this disbandment. I think it's slightly separate from the discussion about this Telegraph article. What say you?
I've started a separate thread on the postponement of this disbandment. I think it's slightly separate from the discussion about this Telegraph article. What say you?
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Just this Once, do you know what the average hours are working out at including sim time now? I'm presuming 11 hours doesn't include sim time already. So long as the allocated sim time is reasonable, 11hrs might not be quite so scandalous as it seems on first impression, if not exactly glorious.
The link here carries the story that the Typhoon Squadron will form a year later. In other words because there is a case to retain a third Tornado Squadron, there is no expectation of this happening over and above the planned total of Squadrons. Whether the 5th Typhoon Squadron will still be 2 Squadron or whether the current 2 Squadron will still continue as such I suspect the case will be that number doesn't change. But the initial impact of the story was that something of a reversal in the reduced Fast Jet fleet was at hand. But as everyone has been saying on here about our Parliamentary representatives...
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Easy Street,
Appreciate your thread on the GR4, on second thoughts, yes comments would fit better there. It also occurred to me that those who would form the next Typhoon squadron would be some way down the line to being ready, I dare say this story will receive further attention as over the weeks ahead. I can't help thinking that had this situation risen some 30 years ago, the Typhoon Squadron wouldn't be pospone, that was then though.
FB
Appreciate your thread on the GR4, on second thoughts, yes comments would fit better there. It also occurred to me that those who would form the next Typhoon squadron would be some way down the line to being ready, I dare say this story will receive further attention as over the weeks ahead. I can't help thinking that had this situation risen some 30 years ago, the Typhoon Squadron wouldn't be pospone, that was then though.
FB
As the Tornado II Sqn was to stand down on March 31 and Typhoon II Sqn stand up on April 1, I would have thought manning streams were largely separate. Thus continue as planned but reallocate 12 Sqn badge to the Norfolk unit - simples. No doubt reality is much more complex, but financial inducements to retain GR4 crews would maybe be the answer...?
Jerry
Renumber isn't that hard, It has been done on numerous occasions in the past (Most primary source documentation is soft copy these days anyway). Other option is the Typhoon Sqn keeps the designate plate while they work up and formal handover happens in 2016 (that's been done before as well).
Renumber isn't that hard, It has been done on numerous occasions in the past (Most primary source documentation is soft copy these days anyway). Other option is the Typhoon Sqn keeps the designate plate while they work up and formal handover happens in 2016 (that's been done before as well).
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I really hope we don't get a Labour government next year. It is because of them that the country is currently under so many budget cuts and will continue to require to be put under cuts until the deficit is wiped.
When the country originally went under while Brown was at the helm, Miliband and Balls were his right hand men. Miliband and Balls are at another level of incompetence!
I have far too much respect for this country and those who serve to protect it, to vote for those who will inevitably destroy it. If Miliband and Ballsy are the best Labour has to offer, then the only light at the end of the tunnel is that of an oncoming train.
When the country originally went under while Brown was at the helm, Miliband and Balls were his right hand men. Miliband and Balls are at another level of incompetence!
I have far too much respect for this country and those who serve to protect it, to vote for those who will inevitably destroy it. If Miliband and Ballsy are the best Labour has to offer, then the only light at the end of the tunnel is that of an oncoming train.
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Defence is likely to be cut ~7% in the next parliament, if the Conservatives get in. Labour may borrow more and keep spending higher - resulting in even greater cuts beyond 2020. Reckon things are up sh1t creek either way, personally (re. defence).
This question has been asked before, but what indeed would have happened should the Cold war have carried on as it was widely expected to, just where would we be now. Likely all the intervening conflicts wouldn't have happened. The irony of that being no cuts as a result. However, with the shift to a new political generation, would ludicrous cuts, even just relative to the circumstance of the cold war have been applied? Would the Labour party have maintained its unilateralist stance through to today? What if a unilateralist Tony Blair (as he once was) became Prime Minister and where would our military orbat be now? What impact would that have had on Soviet Foreign policy?
Currently everyone can see only more cuts on top of more, this doesn't suggest a recovering economy, for if it does, it certainly suggests a woefully off hand and dismissive consideration of the nation's defence arrangements. Hence, Sir Michael Graydon's and other senior military officers' constantly expressed concerns.
FB
Currently everyone can see only more cuts on top of more, this doesn't suggest a recovering economy, for if it does, it certainly suggests a woefully off hand and dismissive consideration of the nation's defence arrangements. Hence, Sir Michael Graydon's and other senior military officers' constantly expressed concerns.
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Remember that during the height of the Cold War the RAF could even spare aircrew on loan service duties to the likes of Oman and maintain out-of-area tasks such as Belize and in our own backyard for Northern Ireland.
Perhaps we ought to see whether we can attract some loan service aircrew from the RAFO. After all their pilots have been taught well
and Iraq is almost in their own backyard, relatively speaking.
Mightn't look too good politically to admit that the RAF is so cut-to-the-bone.
MB
Remember that during the height of the Cold War the RAF could even spare aircrew on loan service duties to the likes of Oman and maintain out-of-area tasks such as Belize and in our own backyard for Northern Ireland.
Perhaps we ought to see whether we can attract some loan service aircrew from the RAFO. After all their pilots have been taught well
and Iraq is almost in their own backyard, relatively speaking.Mightn't look too good politically to admit that the RAF is so cut-to-the-bone.
MB
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Typhoon93,
Although geography plays it's obvious part no Q element has defined allocated turf I believe. Who goes where and when will be based on numerous factors considered at the time. So I guess the specific answer to your question is either or both.
Although geography plays it's obvious part no Q element has defined allocated turf I believe. Who goes where and when will be based on numerous factors considered at the time. So I guess the specific answer to your question is either or both.