Hercules pilots: Can this be done?
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Maybe time for an Op role for the Falcons? Equip cargo with steerable chute and a team member with guy ropes and -- job done. He can sign autographs when he gets down too.
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None of those were stall turns. As far I knew, the Herc isn't an aerobatic aircraft.
I had my cheeks clenched tight with the apprehension of the video actually showing the Hercules performing a stall turn!
I had my cheeks clenched tight with the apprehension of the video actually showing the Hercules performing a stall turn!
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Good grief Charlie Brown..
DL ... The load will be going up at the same speed as the Herc... why would releasing a lock make it slide vertically downwards?
DL ... The load will be going up at the same speed as the Herc... why would releasing a lock make it slide vertically downwards?
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DL ... The load will be going up at the same speed as the Herc... why would releasing a lock make it slide vertically downwards?
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Herod says in #26:
"Gravity dear boy; gravity. The Herc is still powered (I hope), while the load, once released, isn't".
Very much so. And at a brisk speed. Otherwise one enters the world of the Hammerhead, and few people volunteer to enter this world more than once.
"Gravity dear boy; gravity. The Herc is still powered (I hope), while the load, once released, isn't".
Very much so. And at a brisk speed. Otherwise one enters the world of the Hammerhead, and few people volunteer to enter this world more than once.
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Msbbarratt says: "Fit a bunch of rocket boosters to a Herc to give it a brief burst of enhanced climb performance"
Been there - done that - called Operation Credible Sport. This is a joy of Lockheed. They think big. Kudos. But sometimes, as above, it ends in tears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q
I am not sure they will re-enter that field any time soon, although it seems to me that they were not that far from success. Certainly, it was a less absurd idea than NASA's for landing the Opportunity rover on Mars, and that was a total success.
Been there - done that - called Operation Credible Sport. This is a joy of Lockheed. They think big. Kudos. But sometimes, as above, it ends in tears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q
I am not sure they will re-enter that field any time soon, although it seems to me that they were not that far from success. Certainly, it was a less absurd idea than NASA's for landing the Opportunity rover on Mars, and that was a total success.
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AOJM says in #23 :
"As far I knew, the Herc isn't an aerobatic aircraft".
Isn't it? I wouldn't suggest an attempt at a Red Arrows type starburst but they could provide an exciting visual spectacle. They could be called the Roly Polys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faen6MlWzFw
"As far I knew, the Herc isn't an aerobatic aircraft".
Isn't it? I wouldn't suggest an attempt at a Red Arrows type starburst but they could provide an exciting visual spectacle. They could be called the Roly Polys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faen6MlWzFw
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Fishing seems to be very popular round here!
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msbbarratt: You are right; there is fascinating tech in military circles.
dragartist says in #11:
"Evalu8, PTC, - Can we afford such things in the UK for HUMAID? Looks like the preserve of the guys on the other side of the pond".
Don't forget, dragartist, that patents run out - and sooner than one imagines.
Who makes the equipments?
What is the capital cost of what is required?
What is the cost per load?
Can the equipment on the load be returned to base for re-use?
---- surely, "Yes".
If useful, laser guided rice sacks should be achievable.
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dragartist says in #11:
"Evalu8, PTC, - Can we afford such things in the UK for HUMAID? Looks like the preserve of the guys on the other side of the pond".
Don't forget, dragartist, that patents run out - and sooner than one imagines.
Who makes the equipments?
What is the capital cost of what is required?
What is the cost per load?
Can the equipment on the load be returned to base for re-use?
---- surely, "Yes".
If useful, laser guided rice sacks should be achievable.
.
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