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Hercules pilots: Can this be done?

Old 20th Sep 2014, 13:22
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Bridgetoofar,
ah yes the SAFT (Still Air Forward Throw) tables.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 14:34
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Maybe time for an Op role for the Falcons? Equip cargo with steerable chute and a team member with guy ropes and -- job done. He can sign autographs when he gets down too.

(Hopefully no Burger vans around..........................)
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 17:01
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None of those were stall turns. As far I knew, the Herc isn't an aerobatic aircraft.

I had my cheeks clenched tight with the apprehension of the video actually showing the Hercules performing a stall turn!
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 21:05
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Originally Posted by Lord Spandex Masher View Post
I think they mean that anyone with the required skill to do it wouldn't be flying a Hercules in the first place.
You sir are a pillock of the first order.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 21:36
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Good grief Charlie Brown..

DL ... The load will be going up at the same speed as the Herc... why would releasing a lock make it slide vertically downwards?
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 22:09
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DL ... The load will be going up at the same speed as the Herc... why would releasing a lock make it slide vertically downwards?
Gravity dear boy; gravity. The Herc is still powered (I hope), while the load, once released, isn't.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 00:06
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer View Post
You sir are a pillock of the first order.
There's always one.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 00:22
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Hook line sinker and most of the rod too!
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 00:35
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Originally Posted by Lord Spandex Masher View Post
There's always one.
Apparently so.

Well done you.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 00:37
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Why, thank you!
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 08:02
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I think driving the payload in by truck is looking easier...
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 08:33
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The Argosy could have done it . . .
Only if you didn't want to drop too much.... just a couple of Nav Bag's worth say...
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 13:14
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I was trying to work out what wind-up wah anagram Downwind Lander was, I think I'll just take a large toke on the same thing he's smoking and relax.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 14:20
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Herod says in #26:
"Gravity dear boy; gravity. The Herc is still powered (I hope), while the load, once released, isn't".

Very much so. And at a brisk speed. Otherwise one enters the world of the Hammerhead, and few people volunteer to enter this world more than once.

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Old 21st Sep 2014, 14:59
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Msbbarratt says: "Fit a bunch of rocket boosters to a Herc to give it a brief burst of enhanced climb performance"

Been there - done that - called Operation Credible Sport. This is a joy of Lockheed. They think big. Kudos. But sometimes, as above, it ends in tears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q

I am not sure they will re-enter that field any time soon, although it seems to me that they were not that far from success. Certainly, it was a less absurd idea than NASA's for landing the Opportunity rover on Mars, and that was a total success.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 15:44
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AOJM says in #23 :
"As far I knew, the Herc isn't an aerobatic aircraft".

Isn't it? I wouldn't suggest an attempt at a Red Arrows type starburst but they could provide an exciting visual spectacle. They could be called the Roly Polys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faen6MlWzFw
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 16:20
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Exclamation

Fishing seems to be very popular round here!
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Old 22nd Sep 2014, 13:46
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msbbarratt: You are right; there is fascinating tech in military circles.


dragartist says in #11:
"Evalu8, PTC, - Can we afford such things in the UK for HUMAID? Looks like the preserve of the guys on the other side of the pond".

Don't forget, dragartist, that patents run out - and sooner than one imagines.
Who makes the equipments?
What is the capital cost of what is required?
What is the cost per load?
Can the equipment on the load be returned to base for re-use?
---- surely, "Yes".

If useful, [email protected] guided rice sacks should be achievable.
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