RAF Flying Badge - Silver Sixpence?
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RAF Flying Badge - Silver Sixpence?
Have just heard of a Royal Air Force tradition of inserting a silver sixpence underneath the Flying Badge. Complete surprise to me, and I wondered:
1. True or false?
2. First set of wings or all of them?
3. When and why did the tradition start?
Thanks in advance, TP
1. True or false?
2. First set of wings or all of them?
3. When and why did the tradition start?
Thanks in advance, TP
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I may be well off the mark but I believe it originated from the old days when you could ring the squadron to tell them you were OK if you had to make an unscheduled landing in a field.
As for the rest of it I haven't a clue but I shall ask a man who may remember those hallowed days of aviation... "Hello is that BEagle?!"
As for the rest of it I haven't a clue but I shall ask a man who may remember those hallowed days of aviation... "Hello is that BEagle?!"
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12 pence
I was told about the silver sixpence story by an old time aviator, when there were still lots of them around in the crew room (the type who would smoke a pipe in first class, at low level ). Unfortunately though I never found out why, just that it should be done. I have a silver sixpence behind my flying badge, the one on my No 1 that is (and it still fits).
It (the flying badge) was also dunked in champagne, Vintage Dom P......53 I think, same old geezer told us scrotes at the time of it being traditional too. Laterly I have seen, at various grads, students discuss the silver sixpence thing and wander round antique shops trying to find one. The dunking thing now seems to be done in beer or even worse lager.......just no style left really.
It (the flying badge) was also dunked in champagne, Vintage Dom P......53 I think, same old geezer told us scrotes at the time of it being traditional too. Laterly I have seen, at various grads, students discuss the silver sixpence thing and wander round antique shops trying to find one. The dunking thing now seems to be done in beer or even worse lager.......just no style left really.
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1. Yes it is true.
2. Most people only put the sixpence under the brevet/wings on No. 1's.
3. Not sure when the tradition started, but it is partially done for good luck. Also the sixpence also makes the brevet sit out slightly proud.
Champagne drunked brevets are becoming more of a tradition these days. Only mine had to be in Guinness!
2. Most people only put the sixpence under the brevet/wings on No. 1's.
3. Not sure when the tradition started, but it is partially done for good luck. Also the sixpence also makes the brevet sit out slightly proud.
Champagne drunked brevets are becoming more of a tradition these days. Only mine had to be in Guinness!
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Certainly is true, I recall the tailor (some time ago now!) asking me if I had one to put behind.
I always thought it was simply to raise the centre and avoid that little furrow you occassionally see through the letters RAF in the centre.
Like the phone call tale however - but didn't phone boxes in the good old days take old pennies? Push button A etc!
I always thought it was simply to raise the centre and avoid that little furrow you occassionally see through the letters RAF in the centre.
Like the phone call tale however - but didn't phone boxes in the good old days take old pennies? Push button A etc!
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Silver Sixpence
All very true. At Thornhill in Rhodesia (sorry, Zimb--) in late 52 we couldn't get sixpenny pieces and used local "tikkies" - worth about the same. As I recall it was part tradition, part "lucky"and partly to push out the central crown of the flat cheapy wings we wore on KD and flying suits. Ah, those were the days.
Bof
Surely you must remember that a tickey was actually three pence - hardly "about the same" as sixpence! The Rhodesian tickey continued post-decimalisation as 2 and a half cents.
Surely you must remember that a tickey was actually three pence - hardly "about the same" as sixpence! The Rhodesian tickey continued post-decimalisation as 2 and a half cents.
Just a numbered other
Old phone boxes took pennies, and their replacements took thrup'ney bits.
As for the Tanner, it at least made a pair of crab wings worth sixpence!
Now....Navy wings are made of gold.
Incooooooooommmmmmmiiiiiiingg!!!!!
As for the Tanner, it at least made a pair of crab wings worth sixpence!
Now....Navy wings are made of gold.
Incooooooooommmmmmmiiiiiiingg!!!!!
Morning ArkRoyal,
Congrats on your recent 'hitching'. Hope you're still enjoying the 'FW' life. Looking forward to a few ales with the boys in the not too distant future! Oh yes, I too can confirm Navy wings are made of gold..................................... An old Oppo!
Congrats on your recent 'hitching'. Hope you're still enjoying the 'FW' life. Looking forward to a few ales with the boys in the not too distant future! Oh yes, I too can confirm Navy wings are made of gold..................................... An old Oppo!
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Class, style and ?
TP,
Why not try a bottle of something vintage from the year he was born. But make sure you get your hands on his flying badge after its presentation and dunk it before one of his peers sticks in fizzy p*$$ ...
Why not try a bottle of something vintage from the year he was born. But make sure you get your hands on his flying badge after its presentation and dunk it before one of his peers sticks in fizzy p*$$ ...
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My two winged nipple bat has a sixpence behind it. Old seamstress on the windy isle wont stitch wings on without one.
Supposedly '....an Officer shall always carry enough change for a shoe-shine and a shave'
The tradition is still generally upheld, at least, it was on my course not too long ago. Most Grannies have a handfull of predecimal coins somewhere.
Its probably in QRs but never bothered to look. I did however find the one about inspecting the underwear of subordinates........... anyone out there taken the liberty?
Ray.
Supposedly '....an Officer shall always carry enough change for a shoe-shine and a shave'
The tradition is still generally upheld, at least, it was on my course not too long ago. Most Grannies have a handfull of predecimal coins somewhere.
Its probably in QRs but never bothered to look. I did however find the one about inspecting the underwear of subordinates........... anyone out there taken the liberty?
Ray.
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Its probably in QRs but never bothered to look. I did however find the one about inspecting the underwear of subordinates........... anyone out there taken the liberty?
WHHAAT!
Have you seen my privates?
WHHAAT!
Have you seen my privates?
Just a numbered other
Crab wings worth a tanner!!
Thats Tanner, not Tenner.
Now you lucky folk, some unscrupulous Manx barman has taken advantage of my post TT celebrations by shortchanging me to the tune of 2½ pence.
Instead of a 5p, I have a sixpence in my pocket, which I'll donate to any fledgling crustation who needs one.
Adrianshaftsetc. Haven't guessed your ID yet. Clues and a lead on JCP tickets appreciated.
Now you lucky folk, some unscrupulous Manx barman has taken advantage of my post TT celebrations by shortchanging me to the tune of 2½ pence.
Instead of a 5p, I have a sixpence in my pocket, which I'll donate to any fledgling crustation who needs one.
Adrianshaftsetc. Haven't guessed your ID yet. Clues and a lead on JCP tickets appreciated.
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BOAC - QR 2224 - or 2024 - has been removed. Inspection of Airmen's underwear was my finest weapon - carried more clout than the threat of a charge! Especially when they saw it was a legit QR!
