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Old 8th Sep 2014, 09:15
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Fox3 is it really fair though to make kids continue with a language if there time was spent with more productive subjects which will give them better grades than just scraping a pass at that level.

I too dumped my language at age 14 point in Scotland after 2 miserable years abusing French. I did however get top grades in sciences and maths which allowed me to do a degree in Engineering. Oh and I took woodwork instead of French which I have used through out my life to this day.
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..and how sensible that they have waited until languages are no longer compulsory at Key Stage 4, so only 40% of students now graduate with a language GCSE!
Yet my daughter has just started at a newly opened free school at which, by the time she leaves, taking two languages will be compulsory.

At the moment she is learning Spanish and Latin, as of next year she will also be taking German, with the option to drop one of the languages at the start of Year 10.

Not all schools are the same.
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This is the benefit of Free Schools with their ability to write their own curriculum, however the point remains for a national perspective that it is no longer compulsory at KS4.

I agree with mad jock, but my comment was directed at the lack of joined up Government. Prospective Army Officers may not even have the opportunity to study a second language in some schools, and certainly not the one they may wish to study (e.g. German).
Personally, I don't think any subject should be compulsory past 14, including my own - science. The essentials can easily be covered by the end of KS3, and this will then allow many more options for technical/vocational training post - 14, which the UK is terrible at. It should also help certain key subject curriculum designers and teachers take a look at what is really essential in their subject in the real world.

I have extensively drawn on my year's proper woodwork class at school (not the current design & poster rubbish) to, among other things, build my own house singlehanded. One of the best courses I've ever done.
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Old 8th Sep 2014, 23:16
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With most foreign languages the quickest way to learn is via the Long Haired Dictionary, (LHD). One hopes these will be provided to young officers early in their career to make them language proficient. On satisfactory completion of the course the LHD can be re-used by the incoming JOs.


I think my first foreign language choice would be Scandinavian, followed by Northern European.
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Old 8th Sep 2014, 23:41
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Speaking as somebody who left school 5 years ago, back then I was glad I wasn't forced to take a foreign language course for my GCSE's as I hated it. Although now I am older and have a little bit more life experience, I wish I had have took an additional language course. Learning is easier when you're young. As you get older, learning something that is completely different to anything else you've experienced before is much harder. If you can learn a second language when young, you make life easier when you're older if you need to learn another language.
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Ah, yes...Norwegian was my first LBHD!

Though I think if they are bucking for promotion, they ought to be capable of providing their own once sent on overseas Adventurous Training (or whatever they call it these days).
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OK Mr Fox....

.....I give in - what does LBHD stand for? Yes, I have googled for the abbreviations and I can't fit "longitudinal bulkhead" into your sentence. Go on help me out.

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Old 9th Sep 2014, 10:25
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I wish I had have took an additional language course
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Better sort out your grammar before you consider learning another language
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Long Blonde Haired Dictionary
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Aaaaaaaaah!.....

........NOW it makes sense. Aged 18 and in a summer job in the Continental Hotel in Oslo I had one of them. (Or maybe she had me??) Working in the laundry dept it was very hot and steamy and there were big piles of soft towels lying around....
The down side was she liked to bite and not always gently. On my return home my mother's raised eyebrow and questioning the teeth marks on my midriff caused a certain amount of embarrassment. Ho hum. I'll have to and lie down now having come over all previous.

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