No Waddington show - what happens now?
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We'll this chap isn't happy about the cancellation!!
Hilter learns RAF Waddington Airshow 2015 cancelled - YouTube
Hilter learns RAF Waddington Airshow 2015 cancelled - YouTube
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NutLoose wrote:
I'd be interested to see data on the FROM Date for that amount of money.
This is from a few years ago, but is based on the only figures that I have available just now.
2011- 2012
RIAT £6,152,663
Other Income £1,186,089
Total Incoming Resources £7,338,752
Grants to charity £136,921
2012-2013
RIAT £5,982,202
Other Income £640,519
Total Incoming Resources £6,622,721
Grants to charity £113,665
Any surplus funds generated are donated to the RAF Benevolent Fund, the RAF Association and to local charities and worthy causes. To date, over £2,800,000 has been raised for these worthy causes
This is from a few years ago, but is based on the only figures that I have available just now.
RIAT 2009 figures They got over 8 Million pounds in and disbursed £196,997 to Charitable causes.
RIAT certainly makes money for some people.
Less than 20 pence out of every 8 quid was distributed to service charities.
Facts and figures about RIAT.
Royal Air Force Charitable Trust Enterprises
Accounts for 2008-2009
From an income of over 8 Million pounds, the charity got 300 thousand.
Of which, less than 200 thousand pounds was given to the people we all expect to be getting the money. Still, the expenses were right up there in the good figures, so nobody missed out.
RIAT certainly makes money for some people.
Less than 20 pence out of every 8 quid was distributed to service charities.
Facts and figures about RIAT.
Royal Air Force Charitable Trust Enterprises
Accounts for 2008-2009
From an income of over 8 Million pounds, the charity got 300 thousand.
Of which, less than 200 thousand pounds was given to the people we all expect to be getting the money. Still, the expenses were right up there in the good figures, so nobody missed out.
2011- 2012
RIAT £6,152,663
Other Income £1,186,089
Total Incoming Resources £7,338,752
Grants to charity £136,921
2012-2013
RIAT £5,982,202
Other Income £640,519
Total Incoming Resources £6,622,721
Grants to charity £113,665
Last edited by airpolice; 10th Jul 2014 at 21:12. Reason: To add recent figures
From the Waddington Air Show website:
Over the past eighteen years, the annual air show has raised £2.82 million for charity. - See more at: press release - Waddington International Airshow 2013
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Air police, those figures are for RIAT which is Fairford not Waddo 
From
http://www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk/charities
Royal Air Force Waddington International Air Show supported charities
Proceeds from the Royal Air Force Waddington International Air Show are distributed to the Royal Air Force Benevolent Fund, the Royal Air Forces Association and to local charities supported by Royal Air Force Waddington. Over the past eighteen years, the annual air show has raised £2.82 million for charity. Both charities provide financial, practical and emotional support to all members of the RAF both past and present.
- See more at: http://www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk/c....A3SOErSC.dpuf
Proceeds from the Royal Air Force Waddington International Air Show are distributed to the Royal Air Force Benevolent Fund, the Royal Air Forces Association and to local charities supported by Royal Air Force Waddington. Over the past eighteen years, the annual air show has raised £2.82 million for charity. Both charities provide financial, practical and emotional support to all members of the RAF both past and present.
- See more at: http://www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk/c....A3SOErSC.dpuf
For more details on how Air Show proceeds are distributed please write to SO2 Charities, RAF Waddington, Lincoln LN5 9NB. - See more at: http://www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk/c....eulvDR6V.dpuf
http://www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk/charities
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I think it fair to say that the F-35 was the "star item" for RIAT, at least judging by all the excitement being expressed by youngsters in particular (presumably because the poor souls have never seen any "real" aeroplanes). Without that, then there's only the Su-22... all very nice but hardly worth the admission fee when there is so little else. It makes Waddington's show look all the more impressive.
One has to wonder whether RIAT's allegedly snotty attitude towards XH558 has rather backfired on them this time? It would seem that they thought they could afford to dismiss XH558 as less important because they had a shiny new toy to show off. Now that's gone, they're left with very little.
I guess we're heading for some interesting times. If the RAF is making noises that sound suspiciously like abandonment of all shows, and RIAT manages to pull-off its dullest show so far, it will be interesting to see what happens. Let's hope the outcome isn't too horrible.
One has to wonder whether RIAT's allegedly snotty attitude towards XH558 has rather backfired on them this time? It would seem that they thought they could afford to dismiss XH558 as less important because they had a shiny new toy to show off. Now that's gone, they're left with very little.
I guess we're heading for some interesting times. If the RAF is making noises that sound suspiciously like abandonment of all shows, and RIAT manages to pull-off its dullest show so far, it will be interesting to see what happens. Let's hope the outcome isn't too horrible.
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Hmm, RIAT has not been worth going to for last 5 years at least! Havn't been to Waddiington since 1979. Too far away!
Only decentish Airshow I regularly attend is Shoreham these days. Eastbourne is OKish; but display Line a little too far from the coast, so could be better.
Only decentish Airshow I regularly attend is Shoreham these days. Eastbourne is OKish; but display Line a little too far from the coast, so could be better.
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Nutloose, I know that, I was trying to highlight the difference in revenue to charity donations.
Waddington don't publish costs, the way that RIAT do.
I doubt that Waddington actually spend the same, even if you take a percentage for the military people pressed into action instead of paying for staff.
However the annual contribution to charities from Waddington Airshow looks like it might exceed the contribution from RIAT, with an average of over £155,000 a year.
I think that more people need some more clarity with how much, or how little, money from their ticket actually ends up with the charities.
They can dress it up all they like by saying the proceeds go to charity, but there are lots of expenses to be repaid before they count up any proceeds.
The Airshow Business is much more of a Business than a chance to show off Airpower or a Charity gig.
Waddington don't publish costs, the way that RIAT do.
I doubt that Waddington actually spend the same, even if you take a percentage for the military people pressed into action instead of paying for staff.
However the annual contribution to charities from Waddington Airshow looks like it might exceed the contribution from RIAT, with an average of over £155,000 a year.
I think that more people need some more clarity with how much, or how little, money from their ticket actually ends up with the charities.
They can dress it up all they like by saying the proceeds go to charity, but there are lots of expenses to be repaid before they count up any proceeds.
The Airshow Business is much more of a Business than a chance to show off Airpower or a Charity gig.
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Hilter learns RAF Waddington Airshow 2015 cancelled - YouTube
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Cottesmore is easily the most suitable show venue. Okay, it's under Army control but so what?
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When you say "ripped out" I assume you mean "removed" in which case the necessary equipment can be put back easily. It's not as if dormant airfields haven't been re-opened for air shows before. There's absolutely no reason why Cottesmore couldn't be used - it's just a question of will. Obviously, it isn't going to happen as nobody from the RAF is going to propose that the Army should even be approached. Doesn't mean to say that it wouldn't be the best thing to do though 
If we're talking about reality, I guess we will simply be kept in the dark and eventually the RAF will announce that they are no longer proposing to stage shows of any sort but that they will participate in other events (insert suitable cliches and platitudes at this point etc.). But the outcome will probably be that the Waddington show is abandoned. Hopefully that won't happen but I don't think it's unreasonable to imagine that it will.
If we're talking about reality, I guess we will simply be kept in the dark and eventually the RAF will announce that they are no longer proposing to stage shows of any sort but that they will participate in other events (insert suitable cliches and platitudes at this point etc.). But the outcome will probably be that the Waddington show is abandoned. Hopefully that won't happen but I don't think it's unreasonable to imagine that it will.