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Old 20th May 2014, 12:34
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200 people will require logistic support.
Who says the bad guys are giving them any support to 1st world western standards? They might not even care for the captives?

For their own food, the bad guys might pillage what ever village they happen to be driving through at the time.
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Trim Stab, what reason do you have to believe that this bunch of Boko's are cannibals?
They will certainly eat any of the children that die of natural causes (snake bite etc) and may even eat a few healthy ones if they can't get enough bush-meat.
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Trim Stab, what reason do you have to believe that this bunch of Boko's are cannibals?
Cannibalism is not uncommon in Nigeria - try googling it and you will find plenty of ghoulish recent references. These are just the stories that have sufficient corroboration to make it through the veracity filters of western press outlets. I read the Nigerian newspapers (when I am out there) and there are plenty of other locally reported stories that never make it into the western press. These are just the stories from reasonably literate areas of Nigeria too.

The villages in the north and east are totally cut-off from central government, the police (even if they dare go there) are utterly corrupt and unreliable. Nigerians eat anything they can kill. I think it is a safe-bet that any young child who dies of malaria or snake-bite will end up in the soup pot.
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Thank you, Trim, I wonder if there's a preferred herb or spice that goes with such meat.

Ya know, like sage for beef, mint for lamb, clove for pork, what goes with human?
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Why have we sent a Sentinel? Surely a 1970s-era Radio1 DJ would (allegedly) be much more adept at finding schoolgirls if the tabloids are to be believed...
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Old 21st May 2014, 14:26
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And the plot thickens.
A pair of powerful bombs tore through a crowded market and bus terminal, the second one timed to target rescue workers.
There appear to be a few prize 's running amok in Nigeria.
The initial reports from Jos are that Boko are behind this. \

Over a hundred dead.
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Yes, read about that. 20 minutes between them.

They have sunk to a new low.
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Old 23rd May 2014, 17:48
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It was spin.

The UK mil thing was a tabloid spin. Nothing seems to have come of this story and its already old news. We see a familiar modern pattern in the rapacious military/media twist. There will be no UK SF assault. We will not be deploying search planes, or a rapid deployment force, or surgical strikes or anything else in a buzz word way.
There is a pattern this summer, developing. We have Syria with alleged chemical bombs and the Govt. wants to start a war, but loses consensus and it fades away. We have this Nigeria thing, and now its faded away, We have the missing yacht, and that now fades away.


Maybe the UK military are now viewed as...what? Media lozenges? Suck it for a bit and it eases the itch, but really offers no long term solution.
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So if we are not 'deploying a search plane' what do we do about the aircraft and personnel that we have actually deployed??

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There appear to be a few prize 's running amok in Nigeria.
The initial reports from Jos are that Boko are behind this. \

Over a hundred dead.
Boko Haram's strategy seems odd. They actually had a lot of public support in the North East when they first formed up as they were seen as crusaders against corruption. If they had carried on just targeting police, army and government officials they would have gathered more support. Instead, they turned against the unarmed poor to attract more attention, and have now lost any public support they once had.

Which ever way Boko Haram turn now, Nigeria is on the boil and could be tipped into meltdown in the near future. There is a wide-spread feeling of social injustice in the grass-roots of the population and bubbling resentment at the way they are treated every day by the police, army and government officials. Just a small spark could ignite a bonfire - just like the suicide of a market trader in Tunisia set off social change there.

Boko Haram are not the only possible trigger. There is plenty of intertribal tension in some parts of Nigeria which could also spark off a wider conflict - e.g. the Fulanis (nomadic cow-herders who roam all around West Africa) have attacked several villages killing a lot of people, and even recently attacked the heavily armed convoy carrying the governor of Benue state, killing about 30 but not the governor himself. There are also armed militant groups operating in the south in Rivers state and Delta states primarily opposed to the way the oil revenue from the region is misused, though they have other grievances too.

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Leave them to it. Let them wipe each other out at will. It will keep the country in the dark ages for generations to come and be one less worry for the rest of the world.
In fact the reason why the western world wants to become involved is to continue to destabilse such continents. They either sell them arms from without or go in and rock the boat from within.

The corridors of power - eh?
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Nigeria says more girls, women rescued from Boko Haram in Sambisa Forest - CBS News

A bit of good news among the tragedy of late.
A day after the Nigerian army celebrated the rescue of 200 girls and 93 women in the forest stronghold of Boko Haram, the army's spokesman said more women and children believed to have been abducted by the Islamic extremists were rescued as firefights broke out there
A tip of the cap to the colleagues in the Nigerian army. Got a few back, though of course this issue with the Boko 's is hardly over.

Well done, gentlemen.
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A tip of the cap to the colleagues in the Nigerian army.
Except that it is not the Nigerian Army who are doing the heavy hitting...
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Except that it is not the Nigerian Army who are doing the heavy hitting...
Then a tip of the cap to whomever is doing the heavy lifting.
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Old 11th May 2015, 15:40
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This is unfortunate.
The stigma of Boko Haram has tainted girls who escaped their captors.

Segun described the experience of some of "the Chibok girls," as they have come to be known, who escaped in the first couple of days of their abductions. Some got away as they were being transported in open trucks by grabbing the branches of low hanging trees.

Instead of being admired for their bravery, some of those "who had escaped were being called Boko Haram wives," said Segun. After speaking to one of the girls, Segun "got the sense from her that it deeply, deeply shamed her and her companions ... they were being discriminated against because of close contact with Boko Haram and stigmatized," Segun said.

She said some of those girls have left Chibok and are living with relatives or supportive family friends elsewhere. "These girls weren't even touched (raped)," said Segun, "but Boko Haram is so despised that anyone dentified with the group shares some of that label, the slur."
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