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Old 15th Feb 2015, 12:04
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Wander00:
I thought that too, but if you look again, it's an optical illusion, it's actually the leading edge of the RH tailplane
The hook attachment point is much nearer to the jetpipes too
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Old 15th Feb 2015, 13:28
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TT - cor blimey, so it is. Thanks. Won't worry me during the Rugby now.
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Old 15th Feb 2015, 17:05
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This extremely scabby photo came originally (IIRC) from a 1971 edition of Brüggen's Station magazine. Not sure why now but for some reason I cut it out and stuck on card - somehow it has survived all the intervening house moves and surfaced recently.

There may well be someone on the forum who has flown this particular beastie.

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Old 15th Feb 2015, 21:18
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Here's a couple of 14 Sqn jets in the early days flying for a publicity pic.
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Old 15th Feb 2015, 21:44
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Great pic Lyneham Lad ... That's a bit 'spooky' as XV439 in your pic is showing 14 Sqn markings as with XV463 and XV411 below ... so maybe CJ has flown her

Well played CharlieJuliet ... You're now 'Checked Out' on PPRuNe pic posting

That is quite a memorable/iconic image you have there (Hohenzollern Castle I believe) from the early RAF Phantom days ... I'm very much looking forward to more from your collection ... As will a few other members I'm sure.

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Old 16th Feb 2015, 16:20
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Thanks to Coff , can now submit pictures of the RAF`s premier and first FG1 squadron aircraft.
From the late `70s at an open day. (no exif ? Nikon f-301, 35mm+ 70-300 Tamron)

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Old 16th Feb 2015, 16:53
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Well played Sandozer ... You're now 'Checked Out' on PPRuNe pic posting

I'm sure it won't be too long before a few Gentlemen from 43 will be along
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 17:07
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Nice pic of XV571, sandozer, BUT... it ain't from the late 70s, XV571 had that scheme around 1987, and the Barley Grey camo didn't start appearing on FG.1s until the early 80s...

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Old 16th Feb 2015, 17:09
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Whoever invented the description "barley grey" must have seen the pearl barley in our school dinners
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Another of my cr@p snaps, of the Famous 23rd, down south in 83. Please stay inside the white lines!



I must try to find the pictures I took of the end of the AM2 matting, with hook dinks within a few inches of the end of the runway. Not the end, actually ... the last couple of sloping planks after the end. Viewing those became part of the arrival routine walkabout, along with the reminder to fly the PAPIs and not try to duck under on final ... there were 5 arrester cables to choose from, with at least 2 rigged

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Old 16th Feb 2015, 17:43
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Correct Rhino . .

Sorry about that, would say it has to be 1987 ? Like a headless chicken (joke . . .) with no exif .
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 18:23
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571 was painted in this scheme for the Sqn's 70th in 1986. Painfully etched on my memory, I was the project officer for the paint job. You can see where the chequered spine was repainted on the Monday after the 70th. Some sort of communication cock up, I was sure the AOC approved the full scheme....
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 18:28
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That's a bit 'spooky' as XV439 in your pic is showing 14 Sqn markings...
That maybe why I kept the photo - we were both on 14 Sqn...
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 18:30
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"Whoever invented the description "barley grey" must have seen the pearl barley in our school dinners"

It was named after Phil Barley, a scientist in the Defensive Weapons Department at Farnborough who worked on camouflage (and, I think, the "anti-camouflage" black colour scheme for trainer aircraft). I don't know whether his wife's name was Pearl...
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Nice pics CJ, but they're very naughty boys dumping fuel like that round the castle!
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I have that second picture hanging in my front room. Was on said trail and sitting 4th window from the front on 140 "A". A month in the states and really enjoyed DM Tucson and Mirimar....before topgun was even made. How times have changed. As a young rigger, part of the AF was emptying the ashtrays! Best days of my life. Seem to remember f-4 jock and our 10 man having a barney in the bar about him getting too close. He had a point, I was down the back and thought the same. Great pics, will see if I can find them.
Remember I had a 50mm lens and couldn't get the whole toom in!!
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Yep - 1st flight in 439 in Aug '70. Spookily - looking at my log book - I flew 2 sorties with the photographer in Aug 70, and one of them was in 439 - possibly this pic was taken on that flight! 27 mm - I'm sure that we were high enough for the mist not to hit the ground - anyway RAFG pics.
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 19:45
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apols: above talking about post 63
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 20:01
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Originally Posted by Innomonate
It was named after Phil Barley, a scientist in the Defensive Weapons Department at Farnborough who worked on camouflage (and, I think, the "anti-camouflage" black colour scheme for trainer aircraft).
Had the great pleasure of meeting with Mr Barley in my office at MoD, on the subject of aircraft camouflage.

The thrust of the discussion was not Camouflage, or Concealment, but Deception ... as now manifested in the [patented?] CF-18 underside cockpit painting.

With BVR mx, there's no game to play, but in a fur-ball at high speed, any colour/pattern distraction or confusion could be beneficial. Sadly, we never got beyond that first meeting, as my Department was closed down with the collapse of the Berlin Wall and any intense interest in CCD and Survivability. I wonder is anyone does that these days?
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 22:55
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Well, you learn something ("Barley" grey") every day., Thanks
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