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Old 9th May 2016, 17:48
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JASDF 'toom's red lines?

What are the red lines for on the rear of the ac fuselage? End of engine turbine/big whirly bits?
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At a guess Huey ...

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my kung fu isn't what it used to be...any ideas?
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Danger Jet Blast
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Danger Jet Blast
Ah so! Thank you very much
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The red stripe around the rear fuselage is in line with the turbine section of each engine. You are advised not to stand in line with the stripe when the engine is running as a turbine disc failure might not be contained and would be a distinct hazard if it comes hurtling sideways out of the engine. A blade failure should be contained, but better safe than sorry.

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Thanks Walbut ...

Everyday you learn something new
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Old 10th May 2016, 07:36
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On the subject of F-4 models, or rather toys, Airfix should forever hang their heads in shame at this piece of utter junk they sold in the '70s:


'Super Flight Deck'.....
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BEagle ... The most disappointing Christmas present I ever had

PS. I've just remembered that I was given the Mk1 Flight Deck (Grey F4) ... The so called Super Flight Deck had a few subtle mods ... But was equally cr@p compared with BEagle's video of the Mk2.

Mind you ... This is something else

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WXEiVDK0p88

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Old 10th May 2016, 09:45
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The VX-4 'Black Bunny' F-4J modelled in the youtube clip (BuNo 153783), actually ended up with the RAF as ZE352 on 74 Sqn...

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The radio control model was awesome, as was its construction and flying. Well done that man.
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Old 11th May 2016, 06:01
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Mother of God.
That's not a model - it's a small cruise missile!
And the landscape - plus the model MB339 in the background and the accents suggest to me it's Nu Zild.
Idea starts to form about how RNZAF could reactivate fast jets...
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Old 11th May 2016, 08:41
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Roly, Tartare ...

In respect to flying a model like that, at those speeds, it must require an acute sense of spatial awareness and coordination ... It's clearly challenging enough when you're sat with hands on the flying controls in the direction of flight ... But standing remote on the ground
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Too right. Now if we can persuade him to build and fit some missiles and a gun (which he probably could), we'd have an excellent drone destroyer.......
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I know it's not Friday yet ... But I believe Phantoms from 54 Squadron undertook a non-stop flight from Coningsby to Tengah, Singapore 18 May 1970 (on this day 46 years ago).

I believe the first two aircraft set a World Record time (14 Hrs 14 Mins) only to be beaten by the second pair, 24 Hrs later by 6 Mins.

Do we have any members who were involved either in the actual trip by the F4's or other supporting role air or ground ... AAR for example.

There must be a few tales to share ...


Update ...

Just found this on the Flight Archive Site ... Bit of a shame the final part of the article appears to be missing

Flight Archive : June 1970 : 54 Squadron

Acknowledgment : RAF AHB

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Old 19th May 2016, 19:41
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I understand this is the departure of the Lead Pair with XV419 as the Lead Aircraft flown by S/L's G Arkell-Hardwick and D Reed. I can't ID the other aircraft seen, which was crewed by F/L's J Armstrong and D Mayner. The Second Pair were crewed by S/L J Nevil, F/L J Straughan, F/L's J Walmsley and A Spencer.



Image Credit : MOD RAF AHB

Prior to the World Record Flight ... The Phantom was only cleared for 10 Hrs continuous operation. Problem solved by ... 6 circuits of the UK undertaking 5 AAR 'Prods' (15 Hrs) with the help of Marham's Victors (undertaken earlier in 1969)

Rhino ... Have you any more info ?
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Considering air-to-air re-oiling was not available, this may have been the initial limitation. Flew the TF-41 (Spey essentially) in the A-7....only engine I ever saw with a nucleonic oil quantity gage. In any case, 15 hrs may well have needed some oil servicing at destination.

I don't recall J-79s having that limitation (or an oil quantity gage). Although those look like F4Js.

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Sorry, Coff, got no more info than that you've already provided... (good stuff, by the way! )

Originally Posted by OK465
Although those look like F4Js.
OK465, the jets in the picture are FGR.2's (F-4M under McDonnell's nomenclature), the RAF did eventually fly the F-4J, but not until 1984 and we only had 15 of them...

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From IAT 91, there were two F-4s painted up for the 75th Anniversary of the RAF. This is XT899. Scanned from my own slide.
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2nd of the two F-4s painted up for the RAF 75th Anniversary at IAT 91. XV408. Scanned from my own slide.
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