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RAFEngO74to09 wrote;
Yes, my comment was very much "tongue in cheek", but re-reading it, I should have made that clearer!
Thank you for posting the information.
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P6 Driver,
I realize you jest, but TISEO was a bit more than a "camera".
In Vietnam, the ROE required a visident of a MiG before engaging BVR with Sparrow. Most engagements began head-on and Sparrow could be fired at a maximum of 10 miles and a minimum of 3 miles. However, head-on, the MiGs were much smaller and harder to see even with a radar lock achieved. With closure rates approaching a mile every 3 seconds, by the time the Phantom crew had a positive visident on the MiG, it was already too late to fire a Sparrow. TISEO had a 4x and 10x magnification and displayed the image on the WSO's radar display. When the WSO had a radar lock, he could command the TISEO to track the target and then switch to 10x magnification for a visident while the MiG was still in the firing envelope of the Sparrow missile.
P6 Driver,
I realize you jest, but TISEO was a bit more than a "camera".
In Vietnam, the ROE required a visident of a MiG before engaging BVR with Sparrow. Most engagements began head-on and Sparrow could be fired at a maximum of 10 miles and a minimum of 3 miles. However, head-on, the MiGs were much smaller and harder to see even with a radar lock achieved. With closure rates approaching a mile every 3 seconds, by the time the Phantom crew had a positive visident on the MiG, it was already too late to fire a Sparrow. TISEO had a 4x and 10x magnification and displayed the image on the WSO's radar display. When the WSO had a radar lock, he could command the TISEO to track the target and then switch to 10x magnification for a visident while the MiG was still in the firing envelope of the Sparrow missile.
Thank you for posting the information.
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Saw the GAF PHANTOM doing just that on the Friday practice for a Leu at home day, when the lower reheat blew out right overhead and very low over the field...so close that I could see the corrective action being instinctively applied, booting the nose back up level and they carried on with the show. Awesome flying.
Not as scary as the head on diving mig,, when out on the airfield clearing up a fuel/derv spill from the Italian team, but that's another story...
Not as scary as the head on diving mig,, when out on the airfield clearing up a fuel/derv spill from the Italian team, but that's another story...
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I wish back in 1982 I had a camera with me at Leeming, with anticipation we were waiting for the arrival of 12 US Air National Guard Phantoms going to based there for a couple of weeks. Their arrival was somewhat interesting arriving from various directions at low level in to the circuit, one in particular was spectacularly low as he came between the sheds on a knife edge fast enough for us not hear him coming 
By chance would anyone here have a picture.
By chance would anyone here have a picture.
XV411
ZE360 is there as well - in much better nick.
On a much more appropriate note, any excuse to post XV586
The excuse today is that there's a cracking article in the Spring 2015 Naval Engineer on the restoration job 1710NAS did on her.
ZE360 is there as well - in much better nick.
On a much more appropriate note, any excuse to post XV586
The excuse today is that there's a cracking article in the Spring 2015 Naval Engineer on the restoration job 1710NAS did on her.
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My apologies for the poor quality of this picture, but I find it very evocative, having grown up in Dundee to the sound of Phantoms from Leuchars blasting all over the sky at all hours of the day. This one's breaking into the Leuchars circuit c1983/84.
Could it have been Courtney Mil?
Could it have been Courtney Mil?
