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Old 3rd Apr 2015, 11:18
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F-4E - 74-1049 SP r/wh / 480 TFS,52 TFW - Spangdahlem AB, Germany - Alconbury 1986


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Old 3rd Apr 2015, 11:25
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The Red Arrows and 3 x TWCU Tornado GR1 visited the USA in May 83 and gave a number of display. The TWCU aircraft also flew low-level missions from Andrews AFB and Goose Bay, and appeared at the Andrews AFB Open House that year.
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I was a FGCS/CODA tech on TWCU at the time and couldn't believe my luck landing this det. We went out and back on an Albert full of GSE so not much legroom. We staged through Gander outbound and Goose on the way back. At Goose we were treated to the sight of the space shuttle departing piggybacked atop its 747 (think I have a pic of that somewhere). There was no accommodation on base at Andrews so we had to slum it at the Camp Springs Holiday Inn The aircraft just happened to be lined up together on the ramp that day so thinking you don't see those together that often, snapped them with my Instamatic.
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Old 3rd Apr 2015, 11:48
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sandozer, QF-4E, not F-4D.
Argonautical, F-4E, not F-4G.

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Spot on Rhino. the ATRS on the fin Doh. . .
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On Argonautical's F4E, anyone know what the red circular cover on the port wing is for/protects?
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Old 4th Apr 2015, 16:09
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Originally Posted by bike2lv
On Argonautical's F4E, anyone know what the red circular cover on the port wing is for/protects?

Whatever it is, post #180 clearly shows it.
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Old 4th Apr 2015, 16:16
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anyone know what the red circular cover on the port wing is for/protects?
Looks to be in the right place for TISEO, only saw it "in the metal" a handful of times.
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Dunno about anything else but post 181 is clearly pRon of the highest filth.....
Such filth, where could I get a really good copy please?
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Old 4th Apr 2015, 20:02
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I remember reading a first hand report by the pilot of the very impressive picture in post 163. He went on to command an aircraft carrier in the first gulf war and retired as an admiral. As I remember from his very honest report he was flying the display single pilot and in the heat of the moment forgot to put the gear down. Use of afterburner failed to resolve the situation.
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Thanks redhill and wiggy I thought maybe tiseo, but I've never seen one and thought it would be pod mounted, also thought it was an F14 toy.
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Retro F-4F at Wittmund, June 2013:

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Old 6th Apr 2015, 03:01
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Hello everyone. I wanted to say how much I enjoy reading all the stories you have shared especially the Phantom. I found the Vulcan thread a jewel as well. Can somebody explain the reason for the "open doors" on the tunnel back towards the rear of the engines? Thanks in advance, Troy
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Old 6th Apr 2015, 23:23
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TISEO - Target Identification System Electro Optical

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I have a loosely related version of that, but I just call it my "camera".
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Old 7th Apr 2015, 15:17
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TISEO

P6 Driver,

I realize you jest, but TISEO was a bit more than a "camera".

In Vietnam, the ROE required a visident of a MiG before engaging BVR with Sparrow. Most engagements began head-on and Sparrow could be fired at a maximum of 10 miles and a minimum of 3 miles. However, head-on, the MiGs were much smaller and harder to see even with a radar lock achieved. With closure rates approaching a mile every 3 seconds, by the time the Phantom crew had a positive visident on the MiG, it was already too late to fire a Sparrow. TISEO had a 4x and 10x magnification and displayed the image on the WSO's radar display. When the WSO had a radar lock, he could command the TISEO to track the target and then switch to 10x magnification for a visident while the MiG was still in the firing envelope of the Sparrow missile.
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QF-4E Display - 2011

QF-4E display at Luke AFB, AZ in 2011 - video by You Tube user spencerhughes2255: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXtVCNZ6MVw
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Aux Air doors

Reasonably comprehensive explanation here . . . The UK variant was fitted with Rolls Royce Spey two shaft turbofans and required the additional two doors aft.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...20door&f=false

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Phantom Help!

First of all apologies for the intrusion from a non military poster.
The Ulster Aviation Society is currently dismantling FG1 xt864 at Leuchars, would anyone have manuals or copies of manuals or first hand knowledge that would assist us with separating the fuselage/wing. We are unsure if we are removing more than required, therefore slowing down the job.
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Old 8th Apr 2015, 00:57
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Buc Driver,

You could try contacting these guys via their "Forum" - some might even live near you if you check "Members": Home of The Phantomeers
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